I owned Mirage M3Si's and like them very much. Ugraded to ML ReQuest and these were certainly better in many audiophhile ways, but the M3's still had a place in my heart. After buying Avalon Eclipse ($3800 used), there is no room in my heart for any other speaker. The Avalons reach my soul like no other speaker I've tried. I'm sure there are other great speakers, but you cannot go wrong with the Eclipse. Unless you really like playing very loud, I think the Eclipse are MUCH better than the Arcus. I also owned Thiel 1.2's about 10 years ago. Cannot comment on the new or larger siblings, but the Thiel was very transparent for the money, though overall much more lean than the Mirage's. Good luck, Greysquirrel
