There are lots of perfectly valid reasons why people sometimes don’t get the results they were expecting from tweaks. Some of the reasons are not flattering to the end user. But they always blame the manufacturer.
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Am I even making products anymore? No. Not since last week, Junior. I only have like about thirty or something. |
What does that even mean? Are you hot dogging me? 🌭
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Huh? Nobody said the products were the same. And the names are exactly the same, not just vaguely similar. Hel-loo! Do you think names grow on trees? 🌲
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Uh, lack, I believe the term you’re looking for is intellectual property. Besides once a thing has presence on the internet for one year, which mine has and Herbies’ has, it has intellectual property rights. Besides, it’s an ethical as well as legal issue. Capish? In addition, do you have any idea how much a patent costs? 😛
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Hmmmm, the name of the new product sounds familiar. Oh, SuperSonic Stabilizer is a Herbies Audio product. Kind of like Sonic Tonic is the name of one of my products.
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rja wrote,
"geoff, Do own copyright or registered trademark? If so you could sue, how fun is that?"
What? Whoa! Wait a second here! I’m not addressing the product name coincidence here. What I’m saying is - based on what has been described - the Tweek Geek product Dark Matter violates the laws of physics. It even violates the laws of quantum mechanics. But I don’t think you can’t get sued for that.
Then rja also wrote,
"And, although tweeks sometimes work in mysterious ways some do actually work."
Tell me about it. This is me, Geoff. Hel-loo!
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Addendum: sorry, not be be hysterical but such a scenario with the hysteresis, etc. seems rather unlikely, at least for shielded power cords, due to the uh, shielding. Anyone who doesn’t see what I mean raise your hands. ✋🏼 ✋🏼 ✋🏼 How can you be in two places at once and really be nowhere at all? 🙄
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How can Sonic Tonic remove electrical hash in power cables if it’s simply resting on the connectors? Unless either the Sonic Tonic has some ability to attract RF from inside the power cord or the signal is traveling on the outside of the power cord, both of which seem highly unlikely. Maybe it’s a vibration issue. Hmmmmm...😳 Or......Magic? 🐇
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@jay23 I’m not claiming the violet pen affects conductivity one way or the other. I suppose it could be related to the photoelectric effect, which of course would be good for conductivity. Now, if we were talking about the Red X Pen which, now that I think about it, could also be used on the fuse to enhance performance, then I would say it definitely does not (rpt not) affect conductivity. Nor does it affect vibration, RFI/EMI, or anything traveling through the fuse. 🖍
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@costco_emoji It measures about 5.25 inches.
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I would be interested if anyone has sent his fuse off to the Cryo lab or has applied Contact Enhancer to the end caps. Or is that too crazy? 😜 Another trick is to wedge a square of 1/8 or 1/16 cork under the fuse holder. Speaking for myself I almost always painted the end caps with a violet pen. Or any electrical connection.
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Can they detect the presence of artificial atoms? Can they detect the presence of one molecule thickness Graphene? If they can detect nothing it might not mean nothing’s there. It might look like a nothing burger. 🍔 |
Crushed up WA Quantum Chips would be my guess. 🍪 🍪 🍪 If it looks dark it could very well be pate au Graphene.
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Not curious at all? If you knew what was inside you could make better guesses where they should go, no? I’m not a big fan of the expression, oft used by reviewers and audiophiles alike, "I don’t care how they work but work they do!" It’s always better in the long run to try to get to the bottom of things. Geez, if they’re only $25 I’d smash one open with a hammer in a heartbeat and I’m not hot doggin ya. |
jmcgrogan2
Not Geoffkait: "I also learned that the process of evaluating the effect of crystals is a difficult process. This is why I also think that Crystal based products get a bad rap sometimes. Their effect takes time to develop, sometimes a few days to stabilize. Removing them from the room does not immediately remove their effect either. It appears the room itself needs time to "discharge" once the crystals are removed."
@geoffkait , I have noticed this same phenomena with the magnet cables/cords (HFC).
They make for VERY difficult A/B comparisons due to the time it takes for the magnetism to interface with the system, and again, the withdrawal effect takes several hours to clear, IMHO.
A/B comparisons used to be so fun and easy, not anymore.
>>>>Just to make it clear the quote you referred to above is not mine. Not that it matters too much, since I pretty much agree in principle. It should also be mentioned, however, that it is also not obvious how crystals work, what the operating principle is. A lot of people assume that crystals operate magnetically or by absorption of RFI/EMI or by some unspecified quantum mechanical principle. The latter one assumes is what Tweek Geeks were hinting at when they dropped Jack Bybee’s name all over the place during the discussion of crystals and Sonic Tonic on their web site. Alas, gentle readers, I must abuse you of those theories. The crystals operate via a much more obvious and perhaps less glamorous mechanism. It should also be mentioned that there are actually a great many locations where crystals can improve the sound. Next up, are crysals directional? Do they have to be reconditioned? OK, enough about crystals. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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Tweek Geek and crystals (from their web site)
"My own experimentation began by placing large crystals of quartz, amethyst, tourmaline and other stones on top of cables, components etc. Most had next to no effect, some made me think there was a good improvement, only to determine later that it made the sound to bright and edgy. Not to mention looking like a crazy person to my family and friends.
I also learned that the process of evaluating the effect of crystals is a difficult process. This is why I also think that Crystal based products get a bad rap sometimes. Their effect takes time to develop, sometimes a few days to stabilize. Removing them from the room does not immediately remove their effect either. It appears the room itself needs time to "discharge" once the crystals are removed. Usually an hour or two. Up until I learned this I made too many snap judgements. Removing crystals and listening immediately afterward had me thinking that some made no difference. However, returning to the "un-crystallized" room hours later I would notice their absence. This was the cause of many re-evaluations."
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>>>>>I’m heartened to hear that another tweak manufacturer has been experimenting with crystals. As he intimates, crystals are enigmatic and complicated. My Brilliant Pebbles, introduced at the London HiFi Show in 2003, were the first comprehensive crystal based products for audio applications. Power to the Pebble!
Note to self: why did Tweek Geek discuss crystals just before Sonic Tonic. Is Sonic Tonic crystal based? Is this really just a wannabe copy cat of my Micro Brilliant Pebbles for Interconnect connectors and speaker terminals? The first version of Brilliant Pebbles were, uh, crystals contained in small laboratory glass bottles. Coincidence? Hmmmmm..
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Should I say ouch? Good on ya, mate!
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Whoa! What? Hey, ozzy, easy big guy. I’m only trying to help you guys out. You’re acting a little slow on the old response times. Too much Fosters last night one assumes. Still confused? Think "quantum mechanics" the tweek dudes mentioned and the SR Black fuse. |
Putty? Interesting......maybe it's Silly Putty.
Wouldn’t it be a stitch if there was nothing inside the bottles? Say, the glass isn’t black by any chance is it?
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They say it took a few months to develop Sonic Tonic in one breath. In the next breath they say it was a journey of 10 years. Huh! They say the liquid in the bottles reacts to RFI/EMI, producing a new beneficial thing. What would that new thing be, anti matter? 😳
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OMG! Whoa! Hey! They stole the name of my Dark Matter product, too. For their Dark Energy cables. What in the wide world of sports is a-going on here?! |
czarivey
THEY STOLE IT FROM US! Nasty Little Hobitses! They stole our precious!
They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids. Preserve our essence.
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Geoffkait: If it took 10 years to develop I guess we can rule out water.
shadorne
How long does the audible improvement last and how much of the liquid did you drink to achieve the optimal effect?
I see what you're saying. You think it's Kool Aid, right? Strawberry, lime or cherry?
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If it took 10 years to develop I guess we can rule out water. |
You're right, czarivey, and cameras can steal your soul. |
Ah, I get it, mcgroggen. Oil of the snake. 🐍
A journey of 10 years? Whoa! What? Hey, their feet must be really sore.
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So anyone can steal anything they want? My people will be in touch with their people.
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That's weird. I've had a product with the same name for four years. Couldn't they come up with a different name?
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