Snake oil, subs and alcohol

I've been listening for the last week to a few CDs of albeit recorded "studio" music, but fairly live sounding CDs. Actually they are Jamie Cullum "Catching Tales" and Corrine Bailey Rae - self titled as far as I can see.

At certain points, depending upon volume, the bass stands out, and I have thought - "I know the sub is turned up a little too high, but I just like it that way!"

So during some "serious" listening this evening, I thought well that's enough of this slightly bloated bass, I knock the sub down 3 knotches. So I did, and dutifully the system did sound like it had the heart ripped out of it. Not bad, just different.

So I messed with the DSP seting I have on my Meridian - they are great - and set the Direct (2 channel as opposed to trifield 5.1) and even more sucked out sounding.

So having thought, this is lovely, but I prefer it my way, I'm turning the sub back up three notches, I don't care how accurate it is, I find when I turn it back up again......................


The sub wasn't switched on...........

And hasn't been on for weeks...............

Makes me question what I think I have been hearing all along......
I have battled the same issue in the past. I switched things around at times and loved the bass, at times it sounded to full, but opun turning down the bas to where I know most likely it should be it lost its punch and more, so now I just listen to what works for me, forget stats and calculations....this is such a one man hobby there is rarely anyone over to tell ne what they think antway.....and when it comes down to it, who carez!
I'd call this a cautionary tale for the Always Trust Your Ears point of view.

So where does the alcohol come in?
I just love the way the post sounds ... Snake oil, subs and alcohol. It's like part two of lawyers guns and money.

I just turned off my sub and cracked a micro brew ... Happy Memorial Day guys ... I turn 41 tomorrow!

I wonder what bass will sound like at 41? T-minus 5 hours and counting.

5 hours ... 5 beers left - coincidence?

I THINK NOT, Time for Tommy Bolin
Happy B-day Horseface. Oh to be 42 again...
To me digestion of a music very often mixed with some pot consumption especially for progressive rock wich numbers more than half of my music collection.
That's a very good example of SUB-liminal suggestion.
LOL. I have had the same thing happen in reverse. I was testing the Direct Analog sound versus the A/D and back to D/A circuit in my DSP preamp. I wanted to check there was no degradation to the sound using the DSP built in ADC and DAC (an extra signal path).

Well I forgot to turn off the sub! Since the sub only receives a signal when using ADC and DAC ( no subwoofer output on analog direct) I was A to B comparing music with sub and without it => of course there was a difference!

This really surprised me at first because I was not expecting to hear any difference given the ADC and DAC circuits have distortion specs well below what I know I can detect audibly.

After this surprise and once I remembered to switch off the sub, I could no longer tell whether the extra ADC and DAC was in the circuit or not...but I had a laugh.
I have my step son-in-law over who is 21.
I play some really heavy bass music.
It's full, punchy, and deep, the floorboards vibrate slightly. In my mind I say" Oh Yea "!
He turns to me and says, in all seriousness,
"Sounds good but where's the bass"??
So after that I think I need a pair of 15" subwoofers, and a car to put them in..
Tommy - "when I see 5 beers and five hours I don't see coincidence, I see providence"

Drubin - I'd been out on a very acoholic cookery course and decided to "bat on" :o)
There are lots of stories like yours, when something happens that forces us to seperate what is real from what is percieved, the results don't often tend to be flattering. Thanks for the thread!