Small room, "budget priced" speaker advice, please


Hi,

I recently sold my dearly beloved, old Vandersteen 2C's here on Audiogon (and I hope SgtPeppers is loving them at this moment!) :-) I did this because in our remodeled house, my new listening room (which will double as a guest room) is just too small for the 2C's. The Spousal Acceptance Factor was just too low. ;-)

I have a PS Audio Elite-Plus integrated amp for power (around 70 W/Ch) and a soon-to-be-shipped-off-for-a-refurb Sota Sapphire for an analog front end (I have "miles" of vinyl)! I will also get a CD player at some point.

For now, I need to find a pair of best-of-breed, truly "budget" speakers. By "budget," I'm talking upper limit of $850/pair. (Gone are my free-spending, single days... I'm a dad now...) :-)

Listening habits: lots of 60's and 70's folk and rock, some jazz, Donald Fagen/Steely Dan, a little classical. Listening volume: not too loud. Sonic preferences: I value transparency and imaging/soundstage. Bass should be accurate above all, as opposed to chest-pounding powerful.

I've looked at Paradigms, which I know are highly regarded at lower price points. Trouble is, our one, local dealer is primarily a TV/home theater outfit, so you're trying to hear them in a showroom crammed with other stuff... you know the drill. I've also hit a high end shop. Listened to a pair of PSB small towers and disliked them; they sounded muddy and veiled to me. Listened to a pair of the smallest Rega's and liked them quite a bit, but would want to go back to listen again. I even wrote to PS Audio for advice; they recommended the "baby" Epos monitors, but they're out of my price range.

Thanks if you've read this far. Knowing how subjective all this is, I'd still welcome any advice you have to offer about what I should try to audition.
rebbi
Rebbe,

How are you liking the Unison?

I've been doing some reading on it and it seems like a very nice find. I have some interest in the Unison SE integrated as well.

Did you work something out with Unison regarding the phono preamp yet? I'm curious if it can handle a low output MC cartridge like the Denon DL103R in my system.
Mapman,

Hi! I like the Unison very much. Built like an absolute tank and sounds very fine to my ears... more than enough power to drive the Arro.

I consulted with a Unison dealer (don't want to put him on the record without his permission) who told me that the Unico's phono stage is "okay" at best, maybe on the level of the Pro-Ject Phono Box. Anyway, Unison's distributor quoted me a price of $250 for the Unico phono card, delivery from Italy included, and this dealer thought I could get a much better outboard phono stage for that kind of money.

Ultimately, I decided to try my hand at assembling a Bottlehead "Seduction" tubed phono stage. The kit goes for $275, and the reviews are wonderful. I haven't touched a soldering iron in years, so this is bound to be an adventure. :-)
I think the main thing is to make sure the pre is designed to work with either low or high output MC cartridges, or both.

Input impedance is another factor I think but less of an issue in most cases I believe as long as the input impedance of the pre is a good bit higher than the output impedance of the cartridge. I don't think this is an issue for most cartridge/pre-combos, but worth some consideration. I'm quoting some loose facts here, so be sure to confirm them before banking on them. Matching phono system components perfectly on paper is not my forte...I usually have to go through significant trial and error to find what I'm looking for.

Did you identify any good outpboard pres for the Unico that would work with a low output MC cartridge by chance (I'm not currently quite as brave as you and will probably suffer as a result)?
Mapman,

All I really know is what people have recommended here on eBay. The Lehmann Black Cube, Musical Surroundings Phonomena, and Jolida JD-9 all seem to be well regarded.

The standard Bottlehead Seduction only has around 36 db of gain,and so is limited to MM or MC carts with at least 2.5 mv of output, although I believe that 5 mv is the target output. There are a lot of well regarded MM carts out there, so I'm not so worried about being limited to MM. What attracted me to the Bottlehead, besides how much people seem to love them, is that the kit apparently comes with really first rate components out of the box, and that it is an easy amp to upgrade and "mod" later.