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Folks let me just make this clear. This test is to see if cable burn in has ANY effect on cables. I'm not trying to put a percentage on it or a value to it... Only thing I am trying to do is determine if it has any effect from a sonic perspective. I think that is all that is necessary to determine if its valid so I hope your not expecting me to quantify this.
ieales235 posts12-06-2018 2:21pm
There is a potential issue with “auditioning” cables or anything before the burn in period is complete, assuming that the cable is ever completely burned in. That issue is that the burn in process can sometimes be a non linear one, with up and down swings in performance. Thus, when someone takes a peek prematurely he might be disappointed in the sound. But I digress.@geoffkait ROTFLMFAO!
Systems change for well known and enumerated phenomena, ignored by the fuse, direction and burn-in proponents. If my system sounds better after recommend N hours of cable burn-in but worse due to other ignored factors after 2N hours of use, then what?
Cable burn in is fraud.
>>>>>You seem mighty sure of yourself. But can you prove it? Some folks are just as positive there was no holocaust. This is probably a case of whatever ieales insists, it’s best to do the opposite.
The main problem with getting a 100% improvement to the sound is being able to translate what you think you’re hearing into percentages. But if you can measure 3 dB higher dynamic range or 3 dB higher SNR at the listening position would that satisfy you? I suspect the reason for most of the nervous Nellies and skeptism is the inability to get oneself up out of the noise floor.
i am not trying to make that much of a profound statement. Not yet anyway. Maybe IF and it’s a big if there is a difference that peaks my interest to venture down that path sure. For now let’s just see if there is any difference at all, then we can discuss criteria around how to measure it. I mean after all let’s be honest what sounds good is going to be subjective unless like you said we can agree on certain attributes that can be measured such as amplitude, etc. However whether it “sounds better” will be up to me. No one can qualify that but me in this case on my system. Unless you want to come to GA when I do the test lol. This is why the topic is so controversial. What sounds good to one may not sound go to another. I think I am only going to take this to if there is any difference from burn in on a cable. We will be arguing the subjective stuff forever.
Im warming up the system now to do the first listening test to see if I can make any conclusions after the first 200 hours.
To clarify for bob, barnettk, and other interested parties, initially I was warning against use with amplifiers as it was a complete unknown in the field. Now, I have built several systems from integrated DAC to amp, or preamp to amp using the Schroeder Method. Similar superb results as when going from source to preamp.
The caveats and warnings still apply; I suggest conversation with equipment manufacturers to check for compatibility.
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