Sim Audio Moon W5 vs Electrocompaniet Amp


Hi, its coming together for me. My two front runners are the Moon W5 and the Electrocompiet AW180 which I am interested in based on reviews but haven't heard yet. I want this amp to pair with my Levinson 380S and drive a pair of Proac D15's (replacement for the 1.5) which I plan to get in a couple of months.

Does anyone have any experience with either these two amps and in particularly any impressions on this Electrocompiet gear? As always, thanks for your input.
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Sweet sounding? Sim is not sweet sounding at all. At times the treble is harsh, and lean. Nice bottom end and accurate midrange but warm???? Uh uh. I have owned both Sim gear (the I5 integrated) and the Electrocompaniet gear. I enjoyed both but felt the EC kit was alot more fun and less fatiguing to listen to. The statement "Sonically, it should blow the doors off of any Electrocompaniet equipment" is really innacurate. They are two very different house sounds. If you like a more etched sound, SIM is your bag. If you like a nice toe tapping musical presentation, the EC is your bag. Opinions are like..well you get the drift. Listen for yourself and find out which makers sound fits your ear.
Elevator music from the Nemos? Thanks for giving us all such an "accurate" view of a dealer demo. Not suprising since you said in your original statement that Sim gear is "warm" which is way off the mark. Not to many people will ever accuse Sim of being warm kit. Analytical, yes, warm, no way. They are two very distinct sounds. Don't buy the Sim and don't buy the EC if you plan on getting the Talon audio speakers (saw in a post you were asking about the Ravens). They sound excellent with the Bel Canto EVo's with a solid state pre amplifier ( you already have that piece to the puzzle). Real synergy there at a great price point. Good luck.
Nice to know you think so highly of reviewers and base your own thoughts on their opinions. You are an enlightened person. Your comments utilizing professional viewers quotes to prove your points certainly makes a lasting impression with me. Thank you for setting me straight. Peter Mocriefs views will influence my thoughts and hearing experiences as well as your dealer demo opinions on stereo equipment. Are you actually quoting as gospel the same Peter Moncrief who said the Verity Audio Parisfals are terrible speakers? Yet, Stereophile said the Fidelios, the smaller version of the Parisfals (which have about 70% of the parisfal's capabilities) were one of the better speakers they had heard at any price and gave them a class A rating. I believe these same Parisfals have been awarded several Best in Show awards by every major audio magazine. Hmmm......what is going on here? Is everyone else in the high end community insane and Peter is the lone voice of reason? How can it be??? Perhaps we should look to your idea of "homework" which in your opinion are quite clearly "professional" reviews for the answers that perplex us in this hobby. What do we do when we have one reviewer, who in your case you quote as gospel disagreeing with everyone else in the high end audio press? Is he a lone Martin Luther with just cause or could it be that he is wrong yet again. If he says Sim is warm and the Parisfals are bad he needs a hearing aid of the highest order and you need a new prophet to base your listening "opinions" on. Please refrain from regurgitated copyrighted review quotes and your "in-depth" dealer demo observations. Do your own "homework", that is listen to equipment in your own home to form an opinion. At least then it will be your own opinion, not Peter Moncrief's.
Electrocompaniet only manufactures one pre-amplifier model at a time. There is no "bottom of the line" pre amplifier in their line up. Thanks for your thoughts on gear you have demonstrated very clearly you know nothing about. Perhaps you can come back with a witty, hostile rebutle quoting even more copyrighted material from the audio press. Your "opinions" are wonderful.
Please insert "sweet" instead of warm. I stand by my previous statements even with the word substitution. I hope Peter Moncrief will forgive me.

Please Audiogon ))!!!!!!!!!END THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!(( There are alot more things to do in this world then fight about gear opinions. Electrocompaniet may not be for you but that is no reason to bash it. I think it is wonderful gear that deserves to be heard and SIM gear is quite good and deserves an audition too. They present music in two very different windows.
Different strokes for different folks.