I am thinking of trying a pair of the Silnote Morpheous Ref II cables and am wondering what you think of them? I want to try a pair between my integrated & DAC. Also a bit confused by the prices. On their site they all look like they are over $1k, but are all over the net for $150 +. Are they really a high dollar product with bad resell, or are the retail prices just super inflated? Really just wondering as I cannot get a handle on them and not sure if I should buy new or try to buy used. I know the obvious answer is to call them and see, but wanted to check here first.
My good friend bought some and they were nothing special. When he went to return them (b/c of a 30 day return policy) he was told you should try the next up in the line, which he did) but then he still didn't think them worth the $$ and by then the 30 days had passed and he was told he now couldn't return them!
Thanks for the reply, but I answered my own question shortly after posting as a friend of mine came over with the IC's and a pair of Poseidon speaker cables, and I guess it's system dependent but they sound fantastic in my system. Really rich & transparent with outstanding imaging & dark background without sucking the life out of the top end. I bought the IC's just about an hour ago from him, and am working on getting the SC's. Funny how things work out sometime!
My experience with these cables has been very positive. I bought them on a whim at the audiogon intro price last year. Unfortunately, due to my preamp being down for several months, I was unable to use them until recently. After about 100 hrs of continuous play they sound absolutely fantastic. Very open/transparent sound, good resolution, bass is very decent, midrange is superb. I think at the retail price they offer very good value, but at promo price they are a steal! My system is cabled with KS Emotion cables exclusively. Other brands I've tried in the past (mid to top level) include Cardas, Shunyata, Audioquest, Kimber, Anticable, Tara Labs, Antipodes, Monster (1000 and Sigma series) and a few others that escape my memory right now. The Morpheus Ref II come very close to the KS Expression at 1/2 the retail price.
I own 2 sets of the Silnote Morpheus Reference ll cables. They are excellent! In particular, I notice that the mid range is very open and this extends on to the highs, which sound airy and extended when the music calls for it. I have gone through a lot of cable sets, looking for just the right sound, and the Sinotes reach that goal with aplomb! A+!
Another happy customer, I have a Morpheus reference and Poseidon XLR's, both are excellent. The lower price on Audiogon seems permanent, I guess the reduction is a marketing ploy. Still they are good cables.
Just got a pair of XLR terminated Silnote Morpheus Ref II interconnects. My initial impressions after a day of music is: Very well made; Sound transparent in my Ayon Audio tube amp and Ayon Audio CD-07. This is all I can ask for ...except for a fair price: Less than $200 for 1M XLR of this quality is a fair price!
I love Silnote cables (I have several), but I always really dislike dealing with the owner. He's an incredibly talented electrical engineer, but lacks the social graces necessary for good customer service, or for sales. I wish he would hire someone to handle that part of his business.
I bought a Poseidon phono cable and interconnect along with a pair of Orion M-1 speaker cables and I could not be happier. I was going to start buying components but decided to upgrade my cables and it was the best decision I could have made. Mark is a great person to deal with and I will be buying from him again.
I have several of there cables and Mark has ALWAYS been great! As a return customer he even offered me $100.00 off his speaker cables. Thats not why I am posting , I replaced all my interconnect cables ( they were MIT) and powercables ( MAC & MIT) with Marks cables and found them to be better than what I had. VERY nice guy!
I bought the zorion 2 dpeaker cables which beat several cables like Synerrgistic research at 2x the cost those active wall warts what a scam. Interconnects the Poseidon MK-2 interconnects Excellent and very competitive vs cables at 2x their price. A very well balanced high end cable !!
I owned the Orion M1 cables and Silnote interconnects. My friend brought his cables over to compare ,and he explained how his Foils were better then stranded, he was right his sounded more like real music playing .I then saved and ordered the Verastarr audio cables . It was too bad I did not hear these cables before I could have saved myself a lot of money thrn on resale. Since then I order direct and save I recently bought the power cords for my digital a substantial improvement having 30 days to evaluate Is also a plus.
”Silnote cables are subjected to meticulous inspections and several phases of testing including a burn-in processs. We consider the latter a nessary procedure for our clients' convenience.”
I purchased one Poseidon GL Reference power cable. I figured for the price and 30 day return policy. I’d give it a try.
I’m currently using all Pangea 14se power cables which I’m very satisfied with for the price.
When everything settles in - I’ll post my thoughts. The prices really seem too good to be true. Time will tell. I thought Silversinic labs was one of the best bets dollar per dollar. I use most of their interconnects. They have held up quite well throughout the years.
I had their better ones , their connectors average at bass Brass Very poor conductor vs dilver,or Copper And a ton of metal a rf Antenna, also one big no no speaking for myself resale value stinks, and using 3differrnt types of metals Has peaks all over the place. Silver has its resonate points , As does copper and a claimed Gold . When playing music at certain frequencies it was not balanced. I since used Cardas, and Verastarr Both much more uniform , also prices all over the place suggested retail , actual ,sale. On resale may be 35-40 maybe. This is just my And a few friends listening experiences.
I could go and on with observations and experienced comparisons, but instead I have questions: why is it that every negative post (save 1) on this thread about silnote, is posted by illiterates that write as if they are stoned?; as for the save 1, is it coincidence that he is 1 of 2 that attack Silnotes president at a personal level, completely against the grain of 100s, even 1000s, of personal AND professional reviews that compliment the same President on what an outstanding, helpful and personable CEO he is? I respect and take note of conflicting opinions on the audiophile sites .... They are often enlightening, but I find the contradictorians on this thread highly suspect.
Well. It’s bean over a 100 hours of playback. More bass is present, though there is mild distortion with the highs. Aesthetically they look nice, well built. Though the sound. I cannot recommend them.
Would anyone one have a idea why this powe cord is causing distortion with high end frequencies. This was not present before. The pangeas 14se were a bit anemic for me, though they never caused mild distortion in the highs.
I’m sticking with my generics, until I can purchase from TWL.
Is your power clean? Are you using any kind of power conditioning and/or dedicated circuits?
I’m not familiar with Silnote products. Generally speaking, better quality cabling tends to expose weaknesses in the system - especially dirty, noisy power. Dirty power typically manifests itself in ’etched’ high frequencies and ’boomy, ill-defined’ low frequencies. It’s most observable when a female vocalist hits a high note with fortissimo. No recording engineer would allow that kind of distortion on a master. Lesser quality cabling tends to mask/mute those issues.
Most major improvements in my system have occurred when addressing the power supply and delivery.
I love Silnote cables (I have several), but I always really dislike
dealing with the owner. He's an incredibly talented electrical
engineer, but lacks the social graces necessary for good customer
service, or for sales. I wish he would hire someone to handle that part
of his business."
You have to accept that (no offense here to anyone) engineers are not the most socially graceful people. I'm in sales and often deal with a lot of engineers. They don't necessarily rank up there with people you would most like to have beer with. I'm generalizing here so please don't burn me due to these comments. I have dealt with Mark and he was very helpful and easy going to me.
For the guys who call others idiots just because they don’t agree , it is too bad for them This is a Democracy !! Connectors gold brass ,you need to spend $$ if you want good Gold over a Copper. I stand by my findings an alloy is totally different then throwing 3 different wires together.of course you will get at certain frequencies differences and a opaque ness in some odd order upper frequencies.that went away totally when is tryedthe Verastarr cables, and on selling them I was lucky to get 40-45%. on top $1k Poseidon sig 2 cables. They do give you a trial which is good.
Thanks for reaching out with some possible reasons regarding mild distortion/raspiness. You provided some very valid points.
The ultimate luxury would be a dedicated 20 amp circuit, though that is simply not happening. My apartment is powered by a fuse box. A big culprit I would assume. Purchasing a decent conditioner was a priority.
I’m currently using a Blue Circle FX2 X0e Low Frequency Filter Module. Well used for over 100 hours. I used the Silnote as the main feed for power.
I was was fairly content with the Pangeas, and the Blue Circle conditioner. Though at the same time I was curious to see if a 50.00 dollar step up from the Pangea 14se’s would make a difference with subtle enhancement in tone. The Silnote did deliver a bit more bass, and a slightly improved soundstage. Though with recordings in general. It was the land of raspy sounding recordings. Subtle though definitely present - with the exception of well mastered recordings to a certain extent. - note. I returned the 14se’s. I was not completely content with price per dollar.
This is my system. Basic though functional. I’m more than content with 24/192. I don’t have time for Jriver, and other software companies. Firmware updates, and then your OS is not functioning properly.
Bel Canto Ref Link Bel Canto 1.7 Dac Bel Canto REF 500s Macbook Pro Audioquest Carbon AES & USB - good for now. Pangea XLR - thinking of upgrading these. Aci Sapphire XL speakers Silversonic Q-10 speaker cable Blue Circle conditioner as mentioned before.
I think all of this is attributed to the Silnote. I’ve switched power cords, swapped out the Blue Circle for a genetic surge protector. All points to Silnote.
Thats why I’m curious to try TWL. As we speak I’m running all generic cords in conjunction with the Blue Circle. Sound quality is acceptable. Distortion is gone. Some of my material in WAV lacks high fidelity. I can discern which recordings will sound subpar, regardless of price per component or interconnect. After all. A poor master.......
Even though the Silnote provided a bit of distortion to the system as mentioned earlier. It did have it positive moments. Though definitely not suited for practical everyday use. I believe a good entry level power cord feeding the Blue Circle will shape things up a bit. From there I will update each power cord from factory generic.
At the same time 250.00 is my limit, and TWL fits into my budget perfectly. Or Silvetsonic perhaps.