Shunyata Hydra


Ok, I need to make it clear that I am no philistine. I hear the difference between many items with nuanced ability to alter sound quality and fully agree that one must play with every part of their set up to get the sound they want. However, I have played with my shunyata power snakes and hydras in a million ways with many components and in many rooms and have tried floating the ground before and after the hydra and many many more variations. AFTER EVALUATING THE SOUND BOTH WITH COMPUTERS AND MANY UNBIASED EARS I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER THAT SHUNYATA POWER PRODUCTS HAVE ANY SONIC INFLUENCE WHATSOEVER. When I started buying shunyata products I was told by a salesman, "the impact of shunyata hydras and power snakes are in no way subtle." I will dispute that claim with anyone. I spent good money on these parts and wanted them to work very strongly. I can say without reservation their effect is nil. I'm staggered that so many are convinced of their worth.
6f0fae5e a467 498d a54d 78aef4e00f46jamiek
Hmm, could the wires and PC that the OP is using be counterfits and not original Shunyatas? It is one possible explanation for a perceived sonic invariance.
Guidocorona...interesting post...glad you asked...I guess we'll soon see.

Jamiek has a pretty nice system...it is certainly of quality that most usually hear rather dramatic differences...I used to have a Esoteric DV 50s and Shunyata certainly helped that player...

Bryon, I'd add a #5 to your list... noise the components generate and send back into the line...sometimes this can be substantial...especially with some digital gear or switch mode power supplies...
06-02-13: Jfrech
Bryon, I'd add a #5 to your list... noise the components generate and send back into the line...sometimes this can be substantial...especially with some digital gear or switch mode power supplies...
I completely agree, and I should have put that on my list.

And to be completely clear about my view, I do in fact believe that addressing power issues can make a substantial, even major, improvement in SQ. It's just that I didn't experience a major improvement from my Hydra 8. In fact, I experienced a bigger improvement in SQ from various DIY power tweaks, which are discussed in this thread. The beneficial effects of clean power are also discussed in this thread.

Having said that, I believe that the effects of power products, beneficial or otherwise, is variable and system dependent.

Bryon
My comments, that essentially second some of those in Bryon's characteristically excellent and perceptive posts: Although I don't assert that all of the sonic effects of power cords and conditioners are technically explainable, every technical explanation I have ever seen offered for those effects (including explanations at the Shunyata site, which btw I consider to be credible), figures to be dependent on the design of the specific components and their interconnecting cables, on the physical placement of those components and cables, and on the characteristics of the incoming AC.

So I don't see why it should be surprising that in some systems there would be little or no difference.

I'll add that I am pleased to see that most of the responses so far have been sincere and have not questioned the OP's hearing or the quality of his system, which as has been said is indeed very nice.

Finally, I'll reiterate a point I have made a number of times in the past. The ability of a system to resolve musical detail, and its ability to resolve hardware differences, are two different things, that don't necessarily correlate. An ideal component design, were there such a thing, would have zero sensitivity to differences in the AC it receives.

Regards,
-- Al
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