Sellers and "Ambiguity" or "Integrity" of "item as described" descriptions on eBay


Hello all:

I posted this on a thread about speakers and fraud and eBay, but I thought it might merit its own topic:

I have a situation at the moment where I bought a subwoofer on ebay. The seller described that the subwoofer was "In perfect working condition and sounds great. It has some cosmetic wear" but neglected to mention that it was missing a cable that is not an off-the-shelf item, is unique to the system and without which the subwoofer - by the manufacturer’s own statement, does not perform "In perfect working condition". The manufacturer no longer makes the sub or the cable.

It also had a small tear in the surround, which I was not as concerned about, as I am able to repair it, but the fact of the matter is that tear was not mentioned in the listing and only shows up in his photo if you blow it up 200% and then only if you know to look for it. There is an anomaly in the image that is near the tear in the surround that suggests that someone was trying to retouch it out but did not know what they were doing and not only did a sloppy job, but missed the spot.

I am disputing the transaction. Would you consider the description fraudulent? If so, to what degree? Or am I to blame for not reading the fine print? Thank you to all beforehand for your responses.

So far, I’ve gotten one response: from mr_m273 posts05-20-2017 2:12pm
Yes. I would think so. Just for the missing cable alone. I’m quite sure this guy knew that sub needed the cable in question.
unreceivedogma
What kind of cable was it? It must be something that could be replicated.
B
It's a 25 foot 5 pin DIN to a mono male RCA.

It likely can be replicated, and though I am not electronically oriented, it might be something that I might even be able to do it myself, but I need a schematic.

It should not be my problem, however. It is for the seller to be transparent.
Fraud, is a strong statement.  Grounds for a return for full refund - absolutely.
How did the seller list it as working if he didn’t have the cable to use it? You should get a full refund. I would say that it is very fraudulent. BTW,after you spend the time and trouble to find that oddball cable what if the the POS still doesn't work?  
It is in ebay speak "item not as described" with the tear in the surround making it not "in perfect working condition"

My experience is that people with audio equipment that would not pass on Audiogon sell it on ebay.
Buy stereo equipment on ebay from dishonest jerks get crap.I would buy nothing from ebay as you  get junk.Good luck!!
Thanks for the reply. Yes, it should have been included, or at least mentioned it was absent.
Some sellers are dishonest, and some don't know better. Give him the benefit of the doubt. Contact him and Ebay, I am sure you will get your money back-Ebay is pretty buyer oriented.
You are right, I can't find a DIN to male mono rca cable.
Bob
gdnrbob,  When I call eBay, I mostly get someone in the Philippines whose command of English is not the best (and their command of eBay’s rules, for what they are worth, is...?). At first, I thought that the seller simply forgot to send it with everything else, but the seller’s attitude is hostile: he claims that there are 7 other listings of the item with none selling the cable, therefore it doesn’t need one (!) but I found at least one listing that does have it, which I would buy immediately but don’t want to until I clear this up this item.

ebm, due to the death of my father, I wasn’t paying enough attention and noticed only the other day that just 15% of this guy’s eBay sales are in audio, the rest are in...golf clubs. My bad I guess. Fallback is complain to paypal, and/or complain to the state AG consumer complaint division about both eBay as well as the seller?
File online complaint with e-bay and PayPal NOW!!!
Been there, done that, actually. eBay is fighting me, actually. I am waiting to hear from Paypal. I have not taken the AG step yet.
I am surprised, they give me concierge service.
All my calls are here in the US, and they went out of their way to help with a difficult seller.
Send me a PM, maybe I can get you the number.
Bob
I had a problem with an odd Genesis sub cable some years ago, after Genesis was sold - finally found the cable at a computer supply store, audio stores were baffled