Seeking more 3d imaging, deeper/wider soundstage


I'm considering replacing either my amp or my pre. My system is profiled in my system link. Which do you think would improve soundstage/imaging more:
Replace the P3? I'd consider used McCormack, or a passive line stage, but my amp clips at 5v, which is what my DAC puts out when using the XLR outputs, and I'd like to try those someday...not sure a passive is a good fit for my system? Plus I require a remote. That's a deal breaker.
Replace the Rotel RB-1080? I'd consider parasound (a21 is a bit too pricey for me), used McCormack, odyssey, maybe even older krell or classe. I want XLR inputs tho.
Budget is $900-$1200 for either. Music spans the full gamut, excluding hip hop and country. Room is small, 12x12x8. I'm going to throw up some affordable foam acoustic absorption this summer (foam factory). Thnx in advance.
realremo

Showing 5 responses by ghasley

Dear Bo,

Your tone of voice in your posts and your positioning of yourself as an expert of monumental proportions just suffered a severe blow. The way you rudely and summarily dismissed Atmasphere's comment is at once shocking and yet very telling.

While I have never owned any Atmasphere amplifier nor do I know Ralph beyond his input on these forums, I, like many here, have learned a great deal from his sincere and thoughtful input on a wide variety of subjects. He builds world class products and knows what he is talking about and your cavalier dismissal of his post and additionally, the complete and utter arrogance you demostrated while doing so is simply mind boggling!

At least for my 2 cent interpretation of your actions, I will chalk it up to the observation that English is likely your 3rd or 4th language and that audio is the only hobby that is conducive with living in your parent's basement. Any other explanation from you should probably come with a mea culpa for your comments toward Ralph and the hyperbole you incorrectly asserted toward his very accurate input is at least worthy of an apology. Peace.
Dear Bo,

I actually didn't expect further arrogance from such an indefensible position but from your above quote: "It is as it is. Maybe it sounds hard, it is not rude. Words can be read differently." It appears you just may not know any better!

Here is the original comment from Atmasphere: "Even a cheap system should image and play depth. More has to do with setup (not just placement of the speakers in the room) than anything else."

Followed by your reply: "When I read this nonsense you don't understand audio."

Now Bo, I'm not a master of the English language but I understand it reasonably well for an American, LOL. Your reply to Atmashpere was rude and dumb. Period. You seem to enjoy an absolute position on issues rather than taking a more defensible position.

Google Ralph Karsten and Atma Sphere Amplifiers and his almost 40 years of designing world class tube electronics trumps you being a dealer for Onkyo or Primare or any other brand desperate enough to allow you to stock their wares, IMHO. I'm also a fan of Pass Labs gear although I do not presently own any but I am 100% positive if you called Nelson Pass personally, provided he would take your call, he would tell you that Ralph knows his stuff. As a dealer, I can imagine that a stop into your store (provided it is a store and not in your parent's basement) would involve an IMMENSE AMOUNT of hearing you talk, which I personally would find less than desirable.

I doubt that Ralph will chime in further because he wisely steers away from controversy. He was just trying to give some free advice to the original poster based on his decades of REAL experience. You, on the other hand appear to have this intense desire to be viewed as the absolute authority on any subject without the requisite skills to back it up. I'm not saying I'm an authority on anything, especially audio, I just happen to enjoy it. I am reasonably experienced though at spotting bullies, ingrates, idiots, morons and other undesirables and you sir are beginning to check off some of those boxes. I am sure though, after reading up on Ralph's accomplishments and his extraordinary experience, you will publicly soften your position and stabilize what little is left of your waning credibility.

In the meantime, and until such time as you rethink your offensive stance, I would advise others to take your unsolicited "professional" advice and file it away with the old newspapers and used tissues.
Ding-ding-ding!!! We have a winner!!!

Bo, you have now crossed the threshold from which there is no return. It is now apparent to even the casual observer that you are, in fact, quite rude! It is also obvious that you intended to talk out of your backside when commenting to Atmasphere and now Jafox. Its not important to me that we know why you are stubborn, rude and inflexible, only to publicly call you out on it. Any potential customer of yours should recognize these terminal traits and cautiously proceed with you at their own risk.

There are only a few certainties in this world and among them is the absolute unliklihood that you would ever be considered as a dealer by Atmasphere.
Tom, I kind of enjoy waiting for the next pronouncement from Bo....I just sit back amazed that some things are actually considered by some people to be normal behavior. He actually thinks he's being profound in each of his posts although I also point out that there are certain unexplainable things that just occur in nature with no logical explanation. Bo may be single handedly killing the bricks and mortar business model in his homeland. I'll bet if he went back and researched his sales volumes, there would be sales spikes that perfectly correlate with his absence on those days.

I'm sure Bo means well but his abject arrogance ticks me off. Until Bo apoligizes to Atmasphere for Bo's completely idiotic dismissal of Atmasphere's earlier advice in this thread to the original poster, I plan on calling his BS on everything however if he accidentally provides some amazing piece of insight, I will give credit where credit is due. I'm not holding my breath.
Bo1972 has been conspicuously absent from Audiogon. I hope he is ok and not just sitting in the corner of a room in self imposed exile upon discovering that he he arrogantly scolded a world class audio designer by accident.

Bo, show some character and post your apology to Atmasphere. Sure, your carefully fabricated expertise on all things audio has taken a hit in this community but running away from your mistake isnt the way to restore it. Simply say you were wrong, everyone will say "cool" and then you can go back to posting positive reviews of products you sell without full disclosure.