Cambridge Audio 851C
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Thanks for the suggestions. From what I read, the 851C is probably too analytical for me, coming from entry level Audio Note. According to another review I read, the 840 was the exact opposite. From what I have read, the Oppo BDP 105 is really good, but I wanted to know if I was overlooking something.
I am wondering now...I have an entry level Audio Note DAC that I have been using for years, and there is no doubt that my friends BDP 83, which I am borrowing, has greater depth and detail, even more impact. Still, when I am listening to the Oppo, which I am sure is not as good as the newer models, I am missing a certain organic flow that I get with the Audio Note.
I am wondering if I should just keep the transport, and get an Audio Note that is higher up the chain, like the Dac 1, or maybe an Eastern Electric Minimax Dac. I don't like things overly syrupy or rose tinted, but I don't want to get the Oppo only to find out that it is more HI-FI than musical in a natural way. Any more opinions?
I wasn't saying that the Oppo was syrupy or rose tinted, I was saying that I wasn't looking for that sort of presentation. I mentioned it because it seems from things I have read over the years that some people have that view of Audio Note gear.
I did some more listening to the Oppo BDP 83 today, and I think I'm might give the 105 a spin.
Wow, I forgot that I had even initiated this thread!
Breezer, to answer your question, no I didn't buy the Oppo. After living with my friends Oppo BDP 83 for a couple of weeks, I realized that for my ears and sonic priorities, it was all wrong. The resolution was good to be sure, but for me, it was sadly lacking in what some would call musical "flow", and overall, I just felt that the picture it painted was very artificial sounding, with some details being too prominent. I was just always aware of its "sound".
It occurred to me that it was the type of player that would have impressed me a dozen or so years ago, before I was introduced to Audio Note's least expensive DAC.
So, I took the leap and had a DAC 2.1 built for me by Audio Note Kits. Again, for my ears, it just leaves the Oppo in the dust.
I think because it is affordable, and the technology sounds impressive when you read about it. It is also versatile. I think that there is a certain customer for it, and the friend that I borrowed one from is close to what I think the target customer would be. He cares about sound, but not too much. He also wants a versatile, up to date one box solution that interfaces with his other gadgets. I think that they offer good value for the money, but it's probably best to listen to them first to make sure that it fits with your sonic preferences.
Upgradability sounds like a useful distinguishing feature perhaps.
Have only heard an oppo once in a system at a show. I was not impressed, but was not familiar with most of the gesr used, so I would not necessarily blame the Oppo. Many people seem to love them. I am past CD players and not big on video, though an Oppo music streamer designed along the same lines would be an interesting thing.
I don't want to hijack this thread, but I am looking for a one box solution for CD/BD to improve on and replace existing boxes in my HT/music system. I generally listen to more CDs and vinyl than watch movies. The Receiver is Arcam AVR400 which I like a lot. I have come to realize that I value tone, timing and flow over detail, although detail and air have their charms, one of the reasons I chose the Arcam amp over others because it provides measures of all these attributes at the price point. Common one box suggestion is Oppo 105. I am not sold on Oppo based on admittedly limited exposure, and streaming and multi disk formats beyond CD and BD are not as important as musicality in both multiple and two channels. Because I like the Arcam avr, wondering who has compared their BDP300 to Oppo, Cambridge, other multi disk players in this class? Internet search reveals exactly 0 Reviews of the BDP300.
Appreciate your input,