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Schroder sq and the new talea

I heard there was to be a fun time of learning and comparing of these two arms at the rmaf. Since the talea is relatively new, it still has to stand the test of time with comparisons on other tables, other systems and the selective and subjective tastes of discerning audiophiles! There is to be a comparison in one of the rooms at the rmaf this year, which i wasnt able to make. I would be curious to hear some judicial, diplomatic, friendly talk about how they compared to each other in the same system and room. I currently own the origin live silver mk3 with a jan allaerts mc1bmk2 and am enjoying this combo but have become curious about the more popular "superarms" Hats off to both frank and joel.

I hope this thread draws more light rather than heat. If someone preferred one arm over the other it would be OK. With all the variables it doesnt mean that much to me. What matters to me is what it sounds like to me and in my room. With that said...

What was your bias? was it for the schroder or the talea?

cheers!...
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"The Emperor's New Clothes"

The discriminated analog Enthusiast shouldn't be despaired, do your own comparison with the Originals: Well Tempered Arm /Triplanar.
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When only the best will do

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Bravo to you for making the effort to allow two top tonearm designers to put on a well-considered and highly anticipated display of analog reproduction prowess

Yes, specially the "Top Tonearm Designers" brought tears in my eyes. Thank you. The world is so good. A piece of wood is all you need. That gives me hope, because I found a bone from an old Mammoth, I will drill it because I think, its earthy sound will be a sonic revolution....stay tuned...
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... but I am perfectly willing to believe (i) that the overall excellence of phono reproduction depends nearly as much upon tonearm/cartridge matching as it does on the excellence of the tonearm design, and (ii) that some other tonearm design could be "better" using my favorite cartridges. I am happy to see that Talea, Reed, Schroeder are not afraid to attempt to advance the state of the art, and perhaps they have...

May I say, that dreaming or believing has nothing to do with knowledge, engineering and real quality from geometrics and material mix?
I am impressed, that the Statement "State-of-The -Art" is given so easily.

May I ask why? I think, their pricing is State of the Art and from what do we benefit if these guys are successful?
Empty wallet? I agree, then walking is a bit easier...and can someone please explain what do I have from a perfect cartridge/tonearm matching when the Arm itself is nothing special?
A real State-of-the-art Arm will give you better sonic results even with cartridges which are a bit outside of the 8-12 range. This is completely useless, too because wood, titan, composite, aluminum, tubes dampened inside, has total different energy transfer rates...or quality of bearing, ability to guide a cartridge etc.
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... Without love for music such attempts look to me as absurd ...

Well, this is subjective. When you like the music it doesn't matter from what kind of source it is coming, MP3, Car Stereo or Gramophone.

High End Audio actually used to have a goal: perfect reproduction of the sound of real music performed in a real space. That was found difficult to achieve, and it was abandoned when most music lovers, who almost never heard anything except amplified music anyway, forgot what "the real thing" had sounded like.
Today, "Good" sound is whatever one likes.
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Wouldn't a schroder talea on a saskia shoot out be wild!?

it depends on your level of understanding what is going on. When you like to watch horse races and there are some cows running there too with a nice and expensive saddle, the jockeys onto say it is the best experience ever and you enjoy that...fun counts.
But when you prefer real horses...
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