Schiit not that Good?

Schiit was at AXPONA again this year. They were showing a Salk music server streaming into a Gungnir Multibit (?) feeding a Freya and two Vidars. Speakers were the Salk Song 3As.


So what happened?

Esoteric was just next door. This allowed attendees to move immediately from one room to another. Esoteric was showing a full stack of thier latest separates plus a VPI Avenger for analog. Speakers were a pair of Cantons I didn’t get the model of.


The Schiit room, while not bad, was completely destroyed by the Esoteric room. Esoteric played one SACD that unfurled a massive soundstage that I could sense even not being in the best seat. The sound of the Esoteric system, both via SACD and vinyl was dynamic, resolving, extremely musical, collected, vibrant, both large and delicately structured. It was a system that got all the minor details right. Such a good setup. The Schiit setup, while unoffensive, clean, and musical in its own right, simply couldn’t face the Esoteric in inner detail, soundstage, reality and low-level dynamics.


Why did the Schiit system fail so hard vs the Esoteric? Part of the reason might have been the junk cabling used by Schiit. Peaking behind the system I was Blue Jeans speaker cables and mess of power bricks, basic cabling, etc. I don’t know how much of the Schiit’s performance was compromised by inferior cabling, but I’m curious how close it would have come to the Esoteric had Schiit paid some basic attention to that area.

Running a Saga S here with a Modi 3 DAC
Pretty good if you ask me
Does all I want it to
Been using a few day but so far I am Happy
And No Hum either
Run with Parasound A23+ and B&W 805S 
plus my sources
I'll hop onto this two year old thread!I was at Axpona 2019 and thought the Schiit room didn't compare well either. I have a Loki in my system, and it did have to go back for service (the infamous humm), but it sounds great now. Service was excellent after 18 months. Their other gear reviews well too, but I wouldn't buy it after hearing it at Axpona. I was there with my wife, and she agreed - sounded flat, 2D. Not full like other rooms.

I think they need to benchmark the other rooms and find a better combination of gear. Maybe try some different speakers? Can't remember what they ran. There was plenty of good sounding rooms, and everyone pretty much starts out with the same room.
The one that caught my attention was the Yggy DAC, which looks like a good one at its price point. Not familiar with the other products.

I’m sure you are enjoying your Saga S. I’ve been using the Freya S for about three months and it is excellent. 

The O.P. doesn't know what he's hearing and he doesn't know what he's talking about. Whatever his reason is for claiming the schiit vidar failed the comparison it wasn't because the schiit amp wasn't as good.There are ten other more plausible reasons why the esoteric room "sounded better" (if it, in fact, did and the O.P. isn't simply making all of this up, which I suspect he is).