RRL Cleaner, Vinyl Zyme, and Groove Glide


Ok,

I was the guy who was unhappy with my vacumn cleaned records a few weeks ago and I think I found the answer.

After cleaning with super wash and regular wash, then vinyl zyme, then regular wash, then groove glide,(I know it is time consuming!), I got to tell all of you guys that my records are Dead Quiet and Detail has improved alot. The soundstage perspective is a little more like sitting in row 35 versus row 20, but the smoother detailed sound and presentation is nice.

Just thought I would let others know that I tried these products in case others of you are interested. Definitely worth the money spent.

R.
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Showing 3 responses by shasta

Using a distilled water rinse *after using RRL is a distinct no-no.
Applying RRL and giving it a wait period of several minutes before vacuuming is a positive.
The quality of application instructions between DD and RRL is day and night. DD wins hands down, and RRL/Sumiko don't even compete. At $25/bottle, RRL is shameful in this regard.
I use DD pads, the vac is an old NittyGritty (I think a 2.5 Fi). Operating surface is an orginal rubber mat from a Kenwood TT.

IME, using supermarket sourced, steam distilled water rinse, post RRL was not a good thing.
Post DD cleaning, I *do use the distilled rinse, per the mfgr's instructions, with very good results.

The only area I consider DD products to "win hands down" is in the amount of instruction and guidance provided with the products. The DD is contactable (?) via email, as I recall. The mfgr. of RRL is, AFAIK, invisible. I consider both products nearly equal.

Not being a chemist, but I'd guess the RRL products are a bit more "dilute" with a lot more very HQ distilled water; the DD has a bit more surfactants (more sudsy).

The last job was a 1965 45rpm ("Harlem Nocturne/ The Viscounts)to be given as a gift. Utterly garbage vinyl...the RRL just beaded up, like the record had car wax on it. The DD flowed smooth onto the surface.

Different strokes for different vinyls. It's easy to experiment...
Styx: The answer is to experiment, and let your ears decide. And, it may very well vary from record to record.
Strongly suggest a RCM, even the lowliest.
Just read Mikey F's Compleat Guide to R-C'ing, and yikes...talk about A-C disorder. At what I'd estimate at 20 minutes per side, 1 record per day, several man-years invested here...

Strongly suggest a RCM, even the lowliest. At the least, using DD per instructions, you'll be ahead.

Congrats on trying vinyl again...
And please ignore the Famus Audio Revuer, who's wound up so tight that he says it's required to adjust VTA before playing each record.