Router extender.


I have a Sonos system throughout my house in addition to my primary hi-fi system (which is also connected to Sonos). Sonos seems to be very sensitive to router signal strength. This only seems to be a problem on the back porch even though distance-wise it is not that far from the router. The reason I do not run an ethernet cable out there and plug it into the Sonos device is that the problem is not with the device. Its the S2 app on my cell phone that will not hold the router signal.


I have purchased router extenders in the past (for other issues), the ones that plug into outlets, and have not been able to tell that they do anything at all. I sent them back.

I'm not super techy when it comes to this stuff and have a few questions.

First, are there router extenders that operate via an ethernet cable? It would be very simple for me to run a cable under the house from my primary cable modem/router combo and place such a device near or on the porch. If there is such a thing, are there any recommendations?

Second, I have another router that is no longer in use since the cable company installed their modem/router combo. Could this router be used as an extender using an ethernet cable? The cable company set the new modem/router up with the same name and password as my own router. When I tried this it did not seem to work. Would I need to reset the password on the older router or would it simply use the same password as the new router (again, they are the same and they have the same name)? Just not sure why this did not work.

Any help or practical advice appreciated. Use small words....again, I'm not super tech savvy.

Thanks.

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Is it possible to run an ethernet cable from your current location all the way to the new location?  If not, the next best solution would be to get a "mesh" extender/router which communicates with your current router.  It plugs into the wall at the new location and you can now use an ethernet cable in the new location which is plugged into the the extender/router to connect to your devises.  The other option is to have an extender in the new location which will transmit WiFi without the the need of using an ethernet cable in the new location.

Sometimes the communication between current router and the new "extender" can be tricky.  It may take some calls to your internet provider.
  

   
Look at a Google Mesh system
Your old router might work you would need to change some settings like turn off DHCP and router mode.

https://systemzone.net/how-to-use-old-router-as-range-extender-to-boost-wifi-signal/
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TP-Link Deco Mesh is a powerline hybrid with 2 lan jack's per node. Seemless.
2.4 & 5 selectable. Those cheap extenders are worthless because you have to log into them.
I have TP Link Ethernet over AC connected to my Vault 2i and it works perfectly...also strewms 4k netflix
Thanks guys. Tried setting up the old router as per djones' link but could not get it to work. Part of the problem is not being able to access the cable company modem/router combo's admin/wireless options.

It would have been a nice cheap option if that had worked out.

Will have to look at some of the devices mentioned above.
The TP Link looks interesting and simple.

I'm assuming one unit plugs into a wall socket and then into your router via ethernet cable and then any additional units just plug into the AC.

The only issue I would have is that my house is old and has two sets of AC lines, the original lines plus additional new lines. I know which are which and would just have to make sure all of the TP units are plugged into the modern three prong outlets which are all on separate circuits from the original wiring which is all two prong.
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@oddiofyl Which model do you have?
You need to use the Sonos Boost. No way around it. Sonos looks like it will talk to another extender, but actually won’t with any real regularity. Sonos likes it’s architecture and doesn’t play well with others...
The problem is with my cell phone/ Sonos S2 app. The Sonos speaker out on the porch apparently gets a signal just fine and plays normally once the music is started. You just can't change anything while you're out there because the app won't work.


I'm not sure if the Sonos Boost communicates through the cell phone/S2 app so I'm not sure it would help. I don't think it does.
can you put that app on a tablet or laptop and use it/leave it on the porch?
my wife’s phone's wifi would not work all the way to verizon’s primary router. I ran ethernet cable as far as was easy to a switch: 4 ports and dual wireless antenna. great signal strength for tablet, laptop, phone wifi.
Over the years I have struggled with all manner of access points and EN over AC.  Google Mesh works very well, is easy to set up, and expands with additional access points. 
I use the Orbi system, mostly because Verizon touts it.
It seems to work well, even allowing me to add wireless to a property across the street from me.
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elliott, which device did you buy for that setup?
I think you might not understand the Sonos system. It creates its own network. The app is part of that net. I had a similar problem in my business where we have about 5k square ft, my Sonos hub is on one end, and I have two speakers in between. My WiFi signal on my phone would drop on the far end away from my router, thus losing the ability to control the system (system played just fine) just no control. I added a WiFi extender to the mix and thought it would be a home run... not so much. While it did make the WiFi signal on the far end excellent, Sonos would not communicate with it as the Sonos net is proprietary. I called my dealer and they said to add a Boost... solved all the problems.
According to what you're saying I do not understand the Sonos System. 

My situation is like yours was.

But the wi-fi on my phone comes from the router. It says so on the phone. And that is the signal the S2 app is using. I have a hard time understanding why boosting that signal would not solve the issue. It works when that signal is strong, it fails when that signal is weak.

I'm not saying a Boost wouldn't work. My potential issue with the Boost is placement. It seems moving it close enough to the porch would move it too far away from other rooms.

Anyway, the point is probably moot. We want a stronger signal on the porch so we can use laptops and pads for general use (not just Sonos) out there too and I don't think Boost does that. But could be mistaken about that as well.

You could try a desktop extender instead of the plugin type I never had much luck with the plugin where you needed to set up new wireless networks. The newer mesh type use your existing SSID. 

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Wi-Fi-Range-Extender-EX7000/dp/B00R92CLD6?ref_=ast_sto_dp


You might want to try an Apple Airport Extreme router. They are no longer manufactured but are available in the used market. The latest model is the 6th generation upright model A1521. The earlier model is the flat model 5th generation A1408. I have used them both including an earlier generation for 11 years and have had excellent WiFi coverage and never had any issues. My audio systems are all fed via WiFi and I have never had the need for an extender. I have 3 systems in 3 different rooms and my wife has her own system in a different room. I have never had a dropout or a glitch of any kind. One of my systems is in a bonus room over the garage and the reception is excellent. We can sit on our front porch or back patio with our iPads or laptops and have an excellent WiFi signal. We have a hammock about 35 feet from the back of our house and the WiFi reception there is also very good. 
So let me explain what the issue is... the Sonos app looks for the Sonos gear as a sub system of your WiFi. The thing is, while your phone is indeed on the same WiFi, the Sonos system has created its own environment. So, while your WiFi extender is seen by your phone, the Sonos environment will not work with the extender as the extender is not part of the proprietary Sonos environment. The Boost isolates the entire Sonos system as it’s own, singular environment and is much more robust. As mentioned above, a more powerful router would also get it done... but it won’t work with any sort of extender.