So if you're an uncoordinated spazz the product is dangerous. Thanks for the update.
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Swampwalker,that was what I meant.No platter movement,and you can still have a slip-up.Forget about any Merlot or Chardonnay,while playing records.Although one may feel that their coordination never sways from perfect.
Also,I only wanted to put this out.I don't mean to get into any kind of debates.I simply would never get something like this for myself.I have NO agenda,here,and love some of the products that the mfgrs,who make this type of product,sell.Anyone confident enough to go for it,I say fine for you.
As someone who has machined over 100 Outsider record weights for audiophiles all over the world, I have yet to have anyone of them comment that a) its a problem installing or removing the outside record weight, or b) that they ever experienced damage or any other related problem in removing and replacing the record weight.
Along with my 100 plus users, reveiwers from both Stereophile and The Absolute Sound clearly identified the sonic benefits from the Outside record weight. And in the case of my Outsider's, both reviewers bought the record weight.
Is the an outsider record weight right for every turntable owner and every tonearm / turntable combination? Maybe not. But I would suggest that each turntable owner make his or her own mind up, rather than accept the premise that "it SUCKS to market something that is a REAL potential danger".
Implicit in your message is that the risk of using these rings outweighs the benefits of using them. Obviously this is a value judgement which not everyone will share.
You also assume that using a "regular clamp" has less risk associated with it. Although I have not screwed up yet, as a user of such a (heavy)clamp I do not feel that its use is risk free and remain unconvinced that it is less risky than a ring.
You also assume that if you use it once you must use it always. However, if you feel that the risk/benefit ratio is unacceptably high for certain high-value records you might forego the ring for those special cases.
Finally, handling vinyl records inherently assumes risk. The most certain thing to do is to keep your records locked in a vault and never, ever touch them let alone play them.
Well Sirspeedy 70680 I will agree with you.I think as long as your moving your hands and arms around the TT/arm/cart. there is always a risk of taking out your fragile cart.stylus with one false move.This can of course happen with a center clamp as well..as you could drop that too.or just being careless and not paying attention to what your hands( or wooley sweater covered forarms/elbows!) are doing. Not a good time for a brain cramp or to zone out and let the world go by.. Certainly that big ring clamp is adds to the excitement and potential danger as described.
For me though..it was purely about the sonics( or lack of) when using the ring clamp. It did nothing for my analog world to have it on. While It did flatten,press,couple,added weight, and look cool... ect...it also just plain didn't do much else for me and made it downright inconvienient to play records one after the other.I much prefer a vacuum system that I once used (AKA SOTA.) The only "upgrade" that was about equal to it's non performance capabilities was the SDI, which I also found to be useless sonically. :)Hey..I love VPI and use their products...but this is is my opinion having used this stuff!:)
Onhwy61,I did not take any offense.Thanks,though.My sole intent was to get the few vinyl lovers left in the hobby to think,a bit.That's all.Obviously any who own,or manufacture such a product will be defensive,and there are those who will never have a problem.You don't have to be a spazz to have a slip up with a clamp.I have a friend who already has!!He has been in the hobby for over 40 years.A good track record,but ONE odious event DID occu
I won't speak to this matter any longer.Just sharing thoughts,and understand the responses.Good luck,to all!
Making music by dragging a rock at the end of a stick through a glob of semi-hard petroleum byproducts is fraught with danger. But isn't that part of the attraction? There's something special about playing a disc and knowing that the very act of playing it slightly destroys the discs. What's the real useful life of a record? 50 plays? Like live music, vinyl is not permanent. Me, I welcome the danger aspect. I don't even wear a condom when listening to vinyl.