Recommendations Needed: Upgrading from ARC CD-1


I am looking for recommendations for CDP upgrade. I am about 1 year in to this hobby and have assembled the following system over the past 9 months:
- Power = ARC VT-60
- Pre = Rogue Audio 99
- Digital = ARC CD-1
- Interconnects = Kimber Hero
- Speaker cables = Audioquest Granite
- Speakers = Vandersteen 2ce Signature

I enjoy what I have but feel that the ARC CD-1 is too laid back (especially in the highs) and not revealing of all the music on many discs.

Any recommendations for upgrade <= $3K? I am willing to consider single box CD, single box CD/SACD, and separate DAC.

Thanks!
jg_deitrich

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If you think the sound of your system is too laid back you may prefer the CD2.Though I would be cautious of some of this (I agree with much of what is said here but not all) advice to change components and people pooping on the Vandersteens. I have some of the same components in my system and it is set up very carefuly and sounds better than a friends system with 450 watt mono tube amps and $13000 electrostats.(his room needs serious tweeking, a lot of guys around here are of the throw money at it ilk, that don't always solve things!) Any way the VT 60 is a classic ARC amp and I love mine. But if you want more of the sound of the VT100,VT50 ARC is doing an update for your amp that will give you a more current ARC sound. The mod is the "constant current source regulation" said to "give better dynamic expression, bass extension,transparency, and overall naturalness... overall gain is increased by 2.5db." The mod is $250 and you get 3 new 6922's in the deal with the clear damper rings.
Try a Custom Power Cord Co.(available from Music Direct)on your CD1. Buy which ever one you have the budget for,I use the "High Value" which is real cheap compared with some out there. This cord is killer for the $$$ I highly recommend it! As for these folks that don't like Vandersteens let them listen to what they own and keep what you have. Don't sell them! I will make a radical suggestion to make your system fly. Buy a Vandersteen sub! Or better yet 2! It will come alive without a doubt and if you want someone elses opinion on this read the "Audio Prefectionist Journal" article in issuue#2 go to www.audioperfectionist.com I agree with what this guy says and I am also a former audio professional so I have some background and 30+ years of experience. Some of these guys, (no offence but you know who you are) never turn on their stuff they just chat here and hand out band aids and stroke their egos. E mail me and I may be able to help you. I have the 2Ce's with the sub, an ARC CD1, ARC SP9 ,ARC VT60,Set up,set up, set up, tweek tweek, tweek! Don't waste your cash intill you know what you already have.
Well taken Karls, it's just that I was able to buy my CD1 for a yard sale price from a guy that said it was so bright as to be unlistenable. HeHeHe. He was an EE guy that told me that cables don't matter after I quized him on this point. He than proceded to buy a much more expensive player. Low and behold I got an e-mail from him asking me what cables I would recommend, as the new unit was also unlistenable for the same reason. He wasted a bunch of cash because of this rash and unfounded assumption that it must be the cd player. So one guy thinks it's way too bright and another guy thinks it might be too dark, well? Cables have more colerations than most "good" electronics. It would seem a good place to start. I aslo am a believer that some folks like an(to me unnatural) upward tilt in their speakers/systems. Many speaker designers like to put in a little zip here and there to make their products stand out in the show room(I was in the Hi End Audio business for about 10 years). I chose Vandersteens from all of the things I had sold, and they were all(I can't say that since I worked at a dealer where the guys there liked to hook the Mark Levinson stuff to K horns,yech!) great speakers,Quad,Magnepan,Thiel,B&W,Martin Logan,... too many to list, because they were consitsantly the product that sounded the most live live music to "me" when hooked up to very high quality(tube,like maybe a VT60)gear. This is also why I ended my love affair with planar type speakers. You have to make them perform in a real word situation(i.e.your home). Vandersteens are consistantly more realistic sounding in more rooms than others in my experience, and I have set up many, many speakers in many, many rooms, my contention is that it is because they ARE more neutral than anything else out there at twice the price of a given model. Not to be contrary but you are right that many people enjoy brighter stuff than I do(and the thousands of other happy Vandersteen owners out there). I just don't think real music sounds like that. You might find the web article I recomended in my first posting interesting as well,although you don't have to agree with it. Remember that there are no advertisers to influence what he says(same goes for the IAR, International Audio Review) . www.audioperfectionist.com these are guys I agree with on a consistant basis when it comes to the sound of audio gear. I am saving my pennies for a nice mellow, warm, fuzzy pair of Vandersteen 5's.