What kind of music do you listen to? My first thought would be Totem. Punchy, natural sounding, pretty easy to drive, attractive.
What is your preamp? What speakers are you using now?
@ghdprentice basically listen mostly on Jazz / Classical , I tends to listen to relaxing music than shouty rock/pop . As i said, it depends on mood/stress ...
No pre-amp, but integrated amp of Accuphase. Currently speaker is Sonus Faber Concertino Domus , not good in fast and dynamic music.
@newbee Unfortunately not in my listening room, I listened to both SCM7 and SCM 11 at distributor showroom, slighly bigger than mine by 20% , both are quite well performed, I prefer the latter as it may be easier to drive with larger volume.
You have posted your preference for the 11 scm.Not surprised...and i do think they would work quite well in your room,considering music preferences.I am not familiar with roon...my source is cd player/no dac.
As i stated before i started with the 11’s and went with the 19’s.I wanted as much speaker as i could get to ward off upgradeitis.They sit on top of sound anchors which are as much a part of the whole deal imho.
People can fire there suggestions at you and you sometimes have to go with your gut and feel the experience.(I have pic of them in virtual system in my 13 by 10 room fwiw).
Late to the game.... I have had harbeth and others in the past. If going valve a small ls3 like falcon ls3/5 they have a 15ohm speaker which my Leben 18w loved. Harbeth need a bit of oomph to drive. A great option if changing amp is to get a powered Ls50 meta (active)
Wharfedale Linton a cheap great bet.....
Finally I got SCM11 setup and listened over the weekend. Initial impression , it delivers a wider sound stage than my previous Sonus Faber. Deeper bass and sweet mid range (vocal) and much detail on higher midrange frequency .
But some tracks giving boomy bass than my previous speaker. At the moment I only have two bass traps at lower bottom corner of front wall. Should I treat my room, four wall corner with extended foam acoustic panel upto ceiling ?
I have both shelves and curtain on side walls, it will act as diffuser.
Would like to hear your thoughts on bass related issues.
Would like to know about your setup...stands,on shelves.How far out into room are you allowed lol.Kidding...Its a process to achieve great performance from any speaker/soundstage,but atc are very well controlled speaker having no port.I started with room treatments but felt it dead’nd the room too much.I toed them in at just over the shoulder to avoid side wall/1st reflection...i ended up with no treatments and let the ears adjust to what im hearing.Liver performance,better bass and vocals,soundstage as well.I think as speaker gets run in bass will tighten up and improve.This is were people either do the work/readup for setup or sell them and blame the speaker...they will take at least 300 hrs initially imho.Let us know your changes...and yes congrats!
Not quite.The factors that are in my understanding and experience are the mechanical movement of surround and the crossover>the problem i feel with just listening to music doesnt get the surrounds hopping and moving.The ayre burnin disk track 4 works and can get speaker mechanically moving.Other than that bass heavy tracks.I like to use my bela fleck/greatest hits?...even flight of cosmic hippo doesnt get my 19’s moving unless cranked.Hope this makes sense...read up on all you can...time and patience.
I have imported ATC for a along time, I have never experienced break in with them. ATC beats the HECK out of them before they ever get shipped-7Hz at 20Volts for LF drivers! Massive excursion is part of the normal QC for every single driver. The fly in the ointment of break in is that if true:
1) any older speaker would sound very different from any newer speaker of the same model.
2) how does a driver "know" when to stop breaking in? The break in argument is the glue and the paper or materials gain in flexibility, then how does that driver magically stop "breaking in"?
3) There’s precision in how flexible the glue and paper is? IF you design a speaker to sound a certain way, post break in, why ship ANY speaker that does not sound like that? Meaning you have to ship and test only broken in speakers? Why would not every speaker maker break in his or her own speakers prior to shipment?
4) If speakers break in, then a replacement or a recone would never ever sound like the other speaker in the pair. Why has no one every called me and said "wow, the repair sounds different compared to my other speaker". I have precision mastering houses using these speakers, they hear a faulty cap. Why would they not hear two drivers sounding different?
@lonemountain Hi Brad.
Thanks for your clarification on ATC speaker break in.
On similar woofer glue you mentioned. I have had made a mistake using dry microfiber to remove dirt on woofer. Alas, few fabric sticked to woofer and glue, I didn't know the woofer is "wet and sticky". Bad thing happen when I used my finger to remove fabric at the woofer rubber ring, the glue rolled together with fabric as photo attached.
Luckily it does not affect the sound. The woofer no longer look aesthetically nice. I dare not touch the woofer. Any treatment to make good the glue or just leave it ? Thanks
That sticky stuff on some drivers is a dampening material, like a tar if you will, that is used to improve the driver response. It is tacky on purpose, as you sort of paint it on the cone. You cannot clean it- dust is a problem-but fortunately dust doesn't affect driver performance. So best not touch it.
TO fix it cosmetically, you have to recone the driver (start over with fresh parts and fresh dampening material) or replace the driver. Both are not cheap. If it bothers you, then Id get both drivers reconed so they look the same. Use an air cleaner (not an ozone generator which destroys rubber) to reduce dust in the room.
Don't beat yourself up, about it, I did it myself years ago before I understood.
Lone Mountain Audio
Appreciate your advise, not sure how to upload the photo in my previous post was not proper loaded (though I have inserted the URL image and photo size) Nevermind, since it's very minor issue, not going to touch or bother the woofer. I may use air dust blower (camera lens) to blow away the dirt if need be. Thanks again guys.
Busy on other things 😆, only manage an hour or two per day.
I am satisfied with the sound , did slight toe in speaker with equalateral triangle from listening spot due to small room /near field to reduce boomy noise, slight improvement. Will continue to observe and enjoy auditioning familiar tracks. 😉
Hi Brad @lonemountain
Thanks for your suggestion, I do have bookshelves and curtain as first reflection side walls, I am going to add 8" (4"+4") corner bass trap from floor to ceiling at four-corner walls.
Ya, got mine speaker stand from our local ATC distributor, quite heavy , slightly lighter than SCM11.
Hi @jim5559 , Classical is one of my favorite genres, sometimes I listen to fast , dynamic tracks pop to rock, depends on mood. I believe ATC should suit and meet my music preference . Thanks for your recommendation nevertheless