receptacles


Hi I'm really confused about which receptacle to use. I want clarity, not thin and not warm. I tried Furutech GTX-D R was not too happy its was burned in for 50 hours. Then i went for wattgate Rhodium did like that too i ran it for 50 hours. then i used PS audio i liked it but I'm still burning it in. I want something that will be really clear and above and beyond. I heard about the R! would that be the solution to my problem. Thanks
deepak007
Others may disagree, but from a technical standpoint I see no reason to expect the effects, if any, that an outlet may have on clarity, warmth, or other sonic characteristics to be consistent or predictable among different equipment and systems. Or even among different locations, due to the differences that can be expected in the voltage and other characteristics of the incoming AC.

Regards,
-- Al
What is the "problem" that you're trying to correct? What equipment are you using other than these special receptacles?
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Deepak007,

I would suggest you post your message on Tweakers' Asylum.

You will need to register if you are not now a registered Audio Asylum inmate.

When you register you should list what country you live in.
Yes that will make a difference for responses you may get. The receptacle is designed and manufactured to be connected to 120V nominal AC power.
It will also help to know what audio equipment/manufacture you are connecting to the receptacle/s to.

You said you burned in the receptacles you have tried thus far 50 hours. 50 hours of what kind of a load? A 25 watt CDP load for 50 hours, or a 4 to 6 or more amp consistent load like a dehumidifier or refrigerator load? It makes a big difference when burning in an audio grade receptacle. Especially when you consider the money you spent for it.
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what about the GTX D gold?
Furutech GTX-D Gold and Avatar Acoustics Afterburner8 outlets both give clarity as well as natural and organic sound that is very musical. I like the Rhodium GTX-D's as well,...
My equipment is arcam 450 with arcm bluray/cd player. I use NHT classic 4 speakers connected with Blue Heaven interconnects and speaker cables. I use Isotek Solus conditioning connected with JPS pac lite power cord. My system is a 5.1 i use it for both music and movies. I just started playing around with receptacle and they do make a difference. Will the R1 be a good choice or sollution. Im looking for clarity and no warmness since the arcam is warm by nature. or any other suggestion. Thanks
for power cable for my amp and bluray/cd I'm using Heimdall power cord. I'm looking for that 3d type of sound. Thanks
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Deepak007,

From what I have read on many audio forums, the Furutech GTX-D (R) duplex receptacle is anything but warm sounding.

Again how did you burn-in/break-in the receptacle? Connected load current, amps? Approx how many hours?

Just installed the furutech gtx-d (r)

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One thing that caused a hold-up was the long break in of the Furutech receptacles, I rigged up a way to get them on my cable burner so it should eliminate this issue, but the rhodium plated GTX receptacles take a LONG TIME to break in!
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Zephy i burned in the GTX D rhodium through my sound system for days but it still gave me a thin sound only treble type of sound plain sound. maybe its not burned in yet but my PS audio gave me clear sound from the beginning not perfect but tolerable. the thing about PS is that I want something better clearer and not warm. I read reviews about the R1 it sounds good. The R1 comes in 2 types cyro and non cyro any difference there if you guys suggest the R1. I just want to put an end to receptacle search.
The Maestro is what you want. Search on here for more info and get it here. It will give you the clarity you want without mucking up your sound or take forever to settle in.
Thanks for the feedback...glad to hear you found something you like that sounds good with your gear Deepak!
Deepak007;
A new GTX-D (Rhodium) outlet requires at least 500 hours of burn in time in order for it to come into its own sound. What you described you heard after 50 hours is par for the course. After 500 hours you may or may not like what you hear, but 50 hours of burn in is nothing for that outlet.
Just an FYI, and I agree 500 hours is a long wait time.
WILL MAESTRO MAKE MY SOUND WARM BY ANY CHANCE. AND HOW ABOUT R1.
Deepak007,

At 230V it will take for ever to burn in the Furutech GTX-D (R) receptacle connected to your audio system.

You will have the same sound quality problems with the Oyaide R1 as you are experiencing with GTX-D (R) receptacle. The R1 will also need 100s of hours of burn in time connected to your audio system.

Here is another Agon thread for you to read. Note again the hours, 400 to 700, needed to burn in the GTX-D (R) receptacle. And that is with a descent connected load..... Not just a few amps.

To be fair to the Furutech GTX-D (R) receptacle you may want to check around and see if you can send the receptacle to someone and have them burn in the receptacle for you.
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Deepak007,
Both the Maestro and the Avatar Afterburner 8 utilize un plated metal receptacles. Some feel that as a result they both are more natural sounding than those that employ a layer of plating. I'm certain results vary depending on system/components (as does everything else in audio). It has been reported many times that the Furutech GTX D needs "hundreds" of hours to fully burn in. So your assessment of the GTX is probably premature. I'm intrigued by the Avatar Afterburner 8 and will try one in my system (wall outlet to my BPT3.5 Signature Plus balanced power conditioner).
Good luck in your search.
Charles,
HOW ABOUT MY AIR PURIFIER. WILL THAT WORK. ITS A BIG SIZE FOR 40 SQ METERS ROOM.
IM THINKING TO GET THE R1 CAUSE THE MATERIAL I HAVE NOT TRIED AND TALKED TO SOMEONE WHO TOLD ME ITS NOT WARM AND VERY CLEAR. ITS IT SOFT LIKE TO KNOW.
Deepak007,

Please turn off the caps Lock.


How about my air purifier will that work. Its a big size for 40 sq meters room.
08-04-15: Deepak007
At 230V I am guessing, if it uses a hermetic compressor, it draws maybe 2 or 3 amps. You could try it if you leave it connected for at least a month or a month and a half. At least it will be out of sight out of mind for at least a month.

From posts I have read, since you posted your thread, the majority of users like the GTX-D (R) over the Oyaide R1 duplex receptacle. YMMV....
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If you are looking for warm, I've found the Oyaide SWO-GX to be a sweeter sounding outlet. That said, I do agree with Lak that 50 hours burn in is not long enough.

However, considering you are using a Nordost cables and power cord, as well as Arcam electronics, I have no doubt that you are hearing sound that is thin sounding. I find it easier to change cords to suit my tastes than to change outlets, but I do realize that everyone is different. So try the Oyaide SWO-GX.
John,
The OP isn't seeking warmth, he's pursuing clarity and neutral/natural character.
08-04-15: Charles1dad
John,
The OP isn't seeking warmth, he's pursuing clarity and
neutral/natural character.

Ahhh...you are correct sir. Speed reading tripped me up
again, sorry. ;^)
Stick the Furutech on your refrigerator. Plug it into each half of the receptacle for 2 1/2 to 3 weeks (6 weeks in total) and then put it back into your system and see how it sounds.
Deepak, I took a look at descriptions and various writeups on the equipment you indicated you are using. A couple of questions: By any chance is your listening position such that your ears are more than a few inches above or below tweeter level? And do you have the left and right main speakers pointed directly at the listening position?

If the answer to the first question is yes, or if the answer to the second question is no, I suspect based on Tom Norton's measurements and Michael Fremer's comments in this review of your speakers that one or both of those factors are the main contributors to the lack of clarity and excess warmth you have described. And that any difference an outlet and/or its breakin might make would be vastly overshadowed by those factors, as well as being far less predictable.

Good luck. Regards,
-- Al
Al,
When I read these threads I just assume that the basics and fundamentals of good system set up have been addressed. It's entirely possible I may assume too much!
Charles,
I have not tried other outlets but the Maestro. In my system it is cleaner and, not warm, not harmonically thin, not hard sounding. You may like it. No one here can tell you for sure what will be your preference. You have to try them for yourself. Be sure you let any you try, break in fully, that can make a huge difference. Hope that helps.
Everyone thanks your comments I got a lot of inputs.
I agree with Hdm, if you put an AC outlet or a power cord on your refrigerator, it's a very good way to burn them in. I finally invested in an Audiodharma Cable Cooker, which does a very nice job.
Im planing to send mine to the cooker soon from
audioexcellence.
Dpak....If you like natural, get Maestro outlets. They just let the music through without editorial additions/corrections.
hi which receptacle can give 3d style soundstage and good imaging. I tried the r1 fully cooked. the problem is soundstage is not really there. The sound seem like its coming only from the speaker no 3d effect. Im still looking for a non warm, clare sounding, and good 3d like soundstage. Can anyone recommend something good, so i can end the search. Thank you

Im planing to send mine to the cooker soon from
audioexcellence.
08-05-15: Deepak007
And?
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Hi just got the Tesla receptacle is good but very active not so smooth. How is the Maestro compared to this outlet.
Deepak007,
Although I have never heard the Tesla outlet, it might need several hundred hours of burn in time in order to really find out what it will sound like and do for your system.
Thanks for your response Lak.
MY system has good sonics and not that soft. Which receptacle can give me a soft and clear tone. Thanks
09-02-15: Deepak007
MY system has good sonics and not that soft. Which receptacle can give me a soft and clear tone. Thanks
Outlets don't have tonal characteristics. They may affect the tonal characteristics of a system due to their interaction with the technical characteristics of the particular components that are in the system, and dependent also on the technical characteristics of the incoming AC at the particular location.

Per my initial response at the beginning of the thread, those interactions will have little if any predictability, and of course the voltage, noise characteristics, and distortion characteristics of the incoming AC will vary significantly from location to location. I would therefore not have any confidence that suggestions which may be offered of specific receptacles will provide your particular system with the tonal effects you are looking for.

IMO. Other opinions will differ in some cases.

Regards,
-- Al
Thanks Almarg I brought many receptacle but not too happy I just ordered the Maestro hoping if will give me the desired effect. I tried the Synergistic research receptacle and the interaction with my system is very active or maybe too active. I guess i will try the Maestro and see how it goes. Maybe its the power cables. Im using the Nordost heimdal power cable there are not soft sounding. My amp is the Arcam av amp connected to NHT classic 4 speakers. I do have a Insotek Solus for sound noise. 'where i live we use 220 v but I'm ordering outlets meant for US 120v, does this affect the sound too. This is my situation right now.
I've used different receptacles and outcome was different. It refines and affects the sound. Whatever the brand of receptacle it is used, it is better to match AC Plug male plating/conductor metal to plating used on that receptacle. Plating (gold/Rhodium) on conductors changes coloration of the sound toward bright or warm. For example, If Rhodium (GTX-DR) is used and you plug a power cord using AC plug male Gold plating, it could result to a kind of affecting articulation of frequency bands (not saying compression!), like midband frequencies toward bass or treble. It is somehow ( in a much less affecting way!) like using a power cord with Gold male plug and Rhodium IEC or vice versa. I did tried these combinations and outcome sound was not good at all. Except one case with GoldM from Furutech/Silver IEC from Iego! Silver plated plugs are more versatile to be matched with Gold, not Rhodium!

By the way, I was wondering if anybody has tried Wattagate AG 381 Receptacle?

hope that would help.

cheers,
Michel.

MY system has good sonics and not that soft. Which receptacle can give me a soft and clear tone. Thanks
09-02-15: Deepak007


Try this duplex receptacle, Hubbell 5362 Heavy duty industrial series

Burn in time for a new one, about 50 hours.

For the duplex cover plate use a nylon plate.
Example, Leviton nylon duplex cover plate.

Do not use a steel, ferrous, cover plate with magnetic properties.
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Deepak007,
Have you tried the Furutech FPX-G High-Performance Duplex with Gold Plating?
Hi I'm really confused about which receptacle to use. I want clarity, not thin and not warm. I tried Furutech GTX-D R was not too happy its was burned in for 50 hours. Then i went for wattgate Rhodium did like that too i ran it for 50 hours. then i used PS audio i liked it but I'm still burning it in. I want something that will be really clear and above and beyond. I heard about the R! would that be the solution to my problem. Thanks
08-31-15: Deepak007
Hi just got the Tesla receptacle is good but very active not so smooth. How is the Maestro compared to this outlet.
09-02-15: Deepak007
MY system has good sonics and not that soft. Which receptacle can give me a soft and clear tone. Thanks
What are you trying to fix by rolling receptacles?

I have two 20amp dedicated lines for my system. When I replaced builder grade receptables with Maestro, it was one of the best ROI. I wouldn't believe it if didn't experience it myself. A BIG BIG WOW!

Several months ago I replaced Maestro with Furutech GTX-D R, recommended by a dealer friend, the improvements were more subtled and no BIG WOWs. So it amazes me how you can hear such dramatic differences rolling all HIGH QUALITY receptacles.

Furutech GTX-D R is anything from thin, bright ... but neutral, transparent, full body ... in my system.

I THINK you probably have synergy issues with components in your system so rolling receptacles will not address them IMHO. GL!
Or as I stated on this forum already; the Furutech outlets (at least the Furutech GTX-D (R) and FPX-G) take a good 500 hours to break-in, not sound thin and remain constant.
09-05-15: Lak
Or as I stated on this forum already; the Furutech outlets (at least the Furutech GTX-D (R) and FPX-G) take a good 500 hours to break-in, not sound thin and remain constant.
Mine never sounded thin or bright new. After ~5 hours it opened up and slowly improving.
IM burning in the synergistic research its seem to be getting better and better. But i still ordered the Maestro outlet. Just to check it out. MY wattgate is sounding good too. Now i just have to decide which one i should choose. after they all burn in. Thanks
I've always liked my Wattgate Gold outlet, especially on my CDP.