Thank you Dale for your very informative post, I enjoyed reading. I have heard various Ohm speakers but never the big model "F" and was always very curious to their sound as in the 70's they were a landmark/legend. I wish I had a pair!
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It is wonderful to see a rebirth of the original Walsh speakers; it took a lot of dedication. One of a kind in design and there looking good. I hop the hear them some day, I am about a 90 miles or so from you.
Looks like we have neglected this thread for some time.
As most of you know, we have been very busy for the last few years with our new Walsh "Style" TLS products and a lot of the progress and coments can be seen on the virtual systems thread.."My Walsh Dream".
In the meantime,... just thought you might enjoy a "few" comments from some of our clients around the holidays of 2010. These and others will be added to our review page on our website.
“Happy holidays and new year to you and Yin.
I've actually begun writing my speaker review. The problem is, that I'd rather listen to them than write about them.”
Brad Powell 12/26/10
"Merry Christmas Dale...BTW the new TLS-I speakers are awesome. Just as I remember them."
Bill Gonzo 12/24/10
“I've been the proud owner of a set of TLS-1's for almost 3 months now. To be brief They are simply astounding..... the descriptions can be endless. Silky smooth mids and highs, quick, tight, punchy sometimes startling bass. Dale's passion and knowledge of these"instruments" are unrivaled. He is willing to sit and listen to any questions about these speakers you may have for him. You can either go out and listen to a pair of speakers at his home showroom, or you can contact Dale Harder and purchase them direct. Thanks again Dale,...for everything.”
John S. (Ocean County, N.J.) 12/23/10
“I love my Walsh speakers they are by far, the best that I have ever heard in my life and they are not even broken in yet! I am definitely a satisfied customer.”
Hope all is going well for you!
Tony Pierco 10/21/10
We are always open to you comments and ideas. Thank you for your support.
As always, great listening to all.
I'd like to see this thread stirred up with user input on the TLS models based on listening sessions from some of the various OHM/Walsh fans on A'gon somehow.
I think there is a captive market for these here based on expectations. The trick is to deliver some user assessments here that compare these with other more well known and popular designs.
Dale, A'gon should be a great and cost effective resource for building market for these with just a little of the right kind of investment, if that is what you are interested in....
I personally would even be willing to travel a bit perhaps with some advance planning if that would help to get a listen!
Dale, how about exhibiting at teh upcoming Capital Audiofest? I went last year and I think it is perhaps just the right size venue in a good customer target area for you at this stage.
I will do everything I can to be sure to attend again this year if I know there will be new Walsh based speakers to hear there!
Your stuff should be highly price competitive with most of the better stuff I heard there last year! Could be a nice win!
Map, I assume the Capital Audio fest is around the DC area? I would love to hear Dales gear too. I probably wouldn't make it to the Audiofest, but I shouldn't have any excuses, Ohio isn't too far for me to roam and drop in on Dale at some point.
Dale, if you are reading any of this, I am wondering how many of your TLS unit's have been sold at this point. I wish you all the best in your efforts of continuing the manufacture of this type of driver and the technology to do so. Tim
Sorry I have been absent, I seemed to have missed this thread.
I will try to respond to a few questions.
Marty in response to your querries,...
Sensativity is around 88 to 89 db per 1 watt input. Power handling, well that can be somewhat misleading and there is no standard in the industry to my knowledge.
However, the voice coil can easily handle 250 watts and the speakers will handle 300 watt peaks. Sustained power or average power is quite a different thing, however
I routinely run 95 to 98 db sound pressure level in my 300 square foot room measured at 10 to 12 feet from the speakers, using a very high quality Sound Pressure level meter, RTA and various other test instruments.
Free air frequency response is from 24.5 Hz to 22 Khz. I purposely roll the TLS-I off at at about 29 Hz to prevent damage to the driver. Cone excursion (Xmax) can reach 1 inch. (+/_ 12mm)
The impedance curve is almost ruler flat without rise as it aproaches the high end and is ALMOST a pure resistive load on the amp. The sharp impedance peak is at 24.5 Hz typically. This is aided by the fact that there are no crossovers what-so-ever, be it mechanical or electrical.
Sorry if you felt my posting of some of my clinets comments was cheesey. I did not mean to offend anyone. I posted these after several others asked me to post some comments.
Stir Away...LOL. You and anyone else are cordially invited to vist anytime. Bring a friend, bring a spouse, bring your music.
Frazeur,...Regarding your querry of how many sold, some have been private sales that I can not divulge, however the number is around 24 pair.
I was unaware of the other show venue you mentioned. I will look into it.
Great listening to all.
I had the pleasure of meeting Dale and his wife and listening to these remarkable speakers. First, you are not going to meet a more interesting person. His experiences and accomplishments sound as though they were accumulated over multiple lifetimes and his knowledge of audio is amazing.
His continued work and improvements on an already great design are evident because the TLS-I speakers are perhaps the best speaker I have ever heard. Now I cannot say that I have listened to every speaker and I'm sure others have listened to many more, but I have been fortunate to listen to Magnepan, Thiel, Wilson, Avalon, DeVore Fidelity, Vandersteen, Swan, Joseph Audio, Usher, B&W, Martin Logan, Salk, Aerial and Anthony Gallo Reference. And I'm sure I forgot a few. I have always enjoyed a large, open sound that goes well beyond the dimensions of the speaker. Also, I have always placed a premium on accuracy of the mid and high frequencies because way too many speakers sound incredibly harsh. Let me say these speakers do very little, if anything wrong. I enjoy a wide range of music and my mother has played the piano for over 40 years and I know what I like and dislike. Of all the speakers I have listened to, this is the first speaker that doesn't beam the music at my head or force me to listen in one specific position that drastically changes with every inch I move. When listening to a piano, it sounds incredibly large and dynamic and for the first time, I was listening to speakers that understood that. This was the first time I have listened to a pair of speakers that I thought I could turn down the lights and kickback with a drink and simply enjoy the music without thinking of swithching speakers, amplifiers, cables, ...; well you get the idea.
For those also in this hobby and for those that spend A LOT more for speakers than the TSL-I's do yourself a favor and contact Dale. We all know you can spend a lot more for speakers and will end up with many of the same problems associated with conventional speakers. And yes, I understand the room plays a big role. But these speakers sounded better in his room with minimal room treatments relative to some other very expensive speakers in highly treated rooms I have been in. Worst case scenario, you'll talk to him for hours and come away just impressed as I did.
These speakers had the best aspects of all the other designs I have heard without the beaming, small critical listening area and they present the music in a lifelike manner. I walked between the speakers and it sounded as though I was on the stage with the artist. Walk into the next room and it sounds as though the artist is in the next room. No matter where you were, the sound did not disappear. Articulation, accuracy, soundstage, air; it was all present. These speakers will let you know the integrity of the recording, as most speakers do at this level. And it's a shame how bad many of the recordings have become. But after talking to Dale, I now have a plan on how I can ensure I'm getting the best possible recordings.
Now I am a critical person and realize there are others out there that are much more knowledgeable than I am, but listening to these speakers brought the actual instruments and artists into the room and more importantly, brought back very fond memories of my mother playing the piano. And that is what it's all about. This was the first time a pair of speakers made me forget about the pair of speakers and simply enjoy the music. Now I have known people to switch equipment pretty frequently. And that's fine because they like equipment, technology and change.
But for me, it's the fact the equipment got out of the way and the artist took center stage. I was not fortunate to hear the original Walsh designs and I think it's a shame more manufacturers have abandoned or disregarded this type of speaker. Just because something is difficult it doesn't mean it should be ignored and I applaud Dale for improving a legend. If you can't tell by now, Dale's speakers are amazing and you owe it to yourself to contact him and listen to his designs.
Jolida, Conrad Johnson PV-11, PS Audio
Magnepan, Thiel, Salk, Wilson, Swan, Usher, Gallo and a few more I'm sure.