"Budget" pre tube with SS power amp


I like the idea of have a tube pre amp with a ss power amp. But I know next to nothing about tubes. What are thing to keep in mind when looking for a tube pre that has to work with a SS power. I know some tube pre have an high Output impedance it this a concern? Some tube pre also have some slight DC output. For tube power amps as far as I know this is not a problem but for SS power amps this could spell major disaster as far as I know.

Some tube pre amps that come to mind are the:
Primaluna Prologue 3
Cayin SC-6LS
Melody SHW1688II
Manley Shrimp

The thing is I am looking for some of the tube magic but I don't want an overly warm bloated pre with last of nice fuzzy/warm mids but no low or high to speak of.

So any advise you have is welcome.
mordante

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I think I am willing to spend up to 1500euro. My power amp is a Rotel RC1070 and my speakers are Impulse Aria SE.

I listen mainly to rock/metal. To give you an example last couple of weeks I have been listening a lot to Tristania's Illuminations, Moonspell Irreligues and Anathema Judgement but I also like Slayer, Machine Head etc.

The Audio Note M1 is about 1300euro, about the same a Primaluna prologue 3. The M2 is a 1000 euro more expensive. Both are the models without the phono options.
So the M1 is within my options I think the M2 is to expensive.
Thank you for all the advise/reply's.

Has anyone seen or heard this tube pre amp?
This is all the info I have about it.

Tubes: 101D x 1, 6SN7 x 4, 5AR4 x 1
Frequency response: 3 Hz ~ 100 kHz
Total Harmonic Distortion: < à 0,02 % à 1 kHz
Input Impedance: 250 kΩ
Symmetrie: < 0,5 dB (20 Hz ~ 100 kHz)
Verstärkungsfaktor: 20 dB
Dimensions (mm): 470 (l) x 190 (h) x 470 (p) mm
Weight: 21 kg

Anyone compared it to a primalune prologue 3 or similar products?

I have also been "looking" for class A power amps something like a Usher R1.5. But I am afraid that combining a class A power with a tube pre it will become to warm. The last couple of weeks I have done some internet surfing to see what is available, 2nd hand with a reasonable price tag.

So far I have seen a Primaluna prologue 3and March P2000. I know the March isn't a tube pre, but they make some nice gear.

Or maybe I should go intergrated. Then the best deals I have seen are a Symphonic Line RG10 and a DK design V1 reference mkII. But I think that will be to expensive but I can dream.

So many options, now way to review them all and so little money.
@Kkm

I have heard the Primaluna P3 this week but I think it is to warm/mellow. Can you discribe how the Marsh p2000t is?
1500euro is about $2300. But I know the primaluna prologue 3 is about $1500 in the US and 1500euro in the Netherlands. I think, but I cannot prove it that audio in the US is a bit cheaper. But all Dutch prices I mention are including the 19% VAT we have in the Netherlands. So when I import things from outside of Europe I have to pay about 4% import tax and 19% VAT.

Brand new the VTL 2.5 is 2700euro, a shop is selling a demo model for 2290euro. What kind of tubes does the VTL use?

The shop that sells the PL P3 also has a used BAT VK-3i and say it will be more according taste. It's the same shop that sells the VTL 2.5

http://www.wenwaudio.nl/

Just so you can see 2nd hand audio prices in the Netherlands.
I see the VTL has a high gain 20dB isn't that asking for problems with tubes? I also though 12A tubes tend to be warmer then 6299 etc tubes or is that not true?