quandary: inefficient speakers, low-power amp


Hola fellow Agonners,

Help me figure this out. I'm running a system that presents what I guess is pretty much a nightmare scenario for one or more of the components involved: Dynaudio 50 monitors, notoriously power hungry at something like 86db/4 ohm rating, Anthem Amp 1 EL34 based power amp (40 watts/8 ohms I believe), and a Creek passive pre. My sources are Sony DVD feeding a Muse 2+ Dac and Music Hall MMF-5 w/Dynavector 10x4MkII cart feeding a modified NYAL Super It phono pre. This system sounds damn good to my ears, but I'm afraid I'm putting undue stress on the amp, speakers or both. I frequently run the preamp wide open or close to it, and it gets loud but not always as loud as I'd like.

I've considered getting more efficient speakers and keeping the Anthem (truly amazing sound for the $$$ I paid here on the 'Gon, especially with NOS 12AX7 in place)...or looking for a more powerful amp and keeping the Dynaudios (another amazing bang-for-the-buck product)...or just putting in an active pre to see if that improves matters. I really love both the amp and the speakers, but am I crazy for trying to make this setup work? I don't want to fry anything, but this combination sounds so good that my impulse is to crank it up as loud as it will go.

I wanna keep tubes in the system, so I'm thinking, either go with an active pre and keep the Anthem, or get another hybrid amp (like the modified Moscode 300 I used to have, or the Anthem Amp 2) and keep the passive one. Or hell, add a tubed one. Thoughts, feedback?

Thanks,

Jeff
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Showing 2 responses by 213cobra

There are many things to consider here. First, don't worry -- you're not straining anything other than possibly your voice coils if in fact you were clipping your amp. I don't think that's the case. More likely, your passive controller is the first problem. The input sensitivity of the Anthem tube amp may be (I couldn't find the figure on the web) too low for your sources to drive it to full power. An active preamp or at least a TVC (transformer volume control with +6db of passive gain) is probably called for. By your description, I take it you're running your volume control wide open and still not getting what you want, which gives you the impression you're "straining" your system.

It would be helpful to know more about your room, with respect to size and furnishing characteristics to guess your perception of the dynamic range of your system. You certainly could use more power but may in fact not need it if you have some voltage gain in the preamp stage. You can figure your 40/40 watts of RMS power from the tube amp have a good 3db of headroom on bursts. Also, does your amp have 4ohm output taps from the transformers?

There are a lot of ways to get more power if you like your speakers, but many of them won't please you if you're accustomed to the qualitative aspects of your amp. You can try a pair of the excellent Channel Islands D100 or D200 monoblocks on home trial with return privileges, and that is a quite musical and affordable solid state option. Another thing is to consider much more efficient speakers, Such as Zu Druids (101 db/w/m) or something Omega, for example. You might be surprised how much better things sound when your power amp isn't squeezing sound through a speaker crossover.

Phil
Based on your room and alternate amp experiences, borrow if you have to and try an active preamp. Get some voltage gain going into your power amp, then tell us what you notice. I think the sources are not driving the input section of the Anthem power amp very well. Answer that question and you'll have a much better idea how to proceed.

Phil