Problems with Paypal payment?


Hi folks, 

I can't seem to get the Paypal method of payment to connect correctly.  Is that no longer supported?  Has anyone gotten that to work when the list an item for sale in the last day or so?

I haven't sold on here is a while, so the interface is new to me, but when I get to the part where I have to select payment methods, I can select Paypal, but then a popup window opens and nothing happens...

Any advice?
mjm6

Showing 2 responses by ggc

SAD BUT TRUE

It is disappointing that Agon has hitched themselves to the PayPal wagon.

PayPal is not a Merchant bank!!! They are a third party transaction broker that piggybacks off of real merchant banks and charges outrageous fees. So If the interchange rate - set by Merchant Banks - is averaged at 1.89% per transaction - Pay Pal will charge over 6% read the fine print..... They collect on both sides! I guess there are those who don't mind being overcharged.

They definitely have the marketing down and make it seem like everything is easy peasy - a one and done transaction system with all of these "Controls"  in place. They just want their money / fees.  That said they make up their policies as they go with no rhyme, reason or justification - also in the fine print..... 

About a year ago I attempted a transaction on Agon as a buyer through PayPal. They held up the deal citing that I needed to become a member and pay fees before allowing the transaction to go through. When I said I was not interested they refused to return my money. They bragged that they could keep my money indefinitely as they saw fit as per the fine print.

What they did not realize at the time is that I  had them on speaker phone with my bank JP Morgan Chase Fraud department. When the Chase rep chimed in and questioned their statements and the validity of what they were suggesting from a legal standpoint, Pay Pal asked who is this?. When Chase announced who they were, Pay Pal immediately hung up.My money was returned within 3 hours. Needless to say I never was able to make my purchase.

Six months later out of coincidence I met a C suite executive from Pay Pal regarding a possible business transaction with Pay Pal through the company I rep in my day job.  I told my story to this executive who vowed that a full investigation was going to made. Nothing happened.
 
What I have learned is that Pay Pal is  based out of Singapore so they are not held to any US banking regulatory laws. 

GET INFORMED!!!

In the eyes of the SEC PayPal is not a bank. - But that hasn’t stopped it from Posing like one.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1103415/000091205702030120/a2085776z10-q.htm

The main Point mentioned in above link provided by Pay Pal Themselves

14.  LEGAL AND REGULATORY MATTERS

Bank Regulatory Matters

        Because the Company is not licensed as a bank, it is not permitted to engage in a banking business. The Company does not require customers to keep funds in the Company's system in order to use the Company's product. Although the definition of a "banking business" varies among state laws, and is not limited to entities that take deposits, the Company believes that its principal risk of being deemed to be engaged in unauthorized banking activities, as indicated in the concerns raised by the four states described below, arises from the possibility that the Company may be deemed to be keeping money on account for customers or otherwise accepting deposits.

The Company has taken two principal steps intended to create the result that customers who carry balances available for future spending through PayPal are not "keeping money on account" with the Company:

    •as of November 2000, U.S.-based customers who choose to carry balances have had the option of investing those balances through a sweep arrangement to purchase shares of the PayPal Money Market Fund, which is a registered money market mutual fund. These shares are held by the customer directly, and the Company does not become the owner of the underlying funds, as it would in a deposit relationship.

    •as of August 2001, the Company changed its user agreement and the management of its customers' funds so that, for customers who choose to carry balances but do not enroll in the money market sweep, the Company acts as agent for the customers in placing their money in bank accounts, and the Company does not have discretion to loan out those funds, or spend the funds for its corporate purposes. The Company has established relationships with three banks under which it places customer funds outside of the Money Market Fund into Agency Accounts at these banks.


PayPal is a third-party processor platform vendor, also referred to as an aggregator. That means the company  on boards merchants as sub-users of one, giant merchant account that includes the entirety of PayPal’s merchant base.  

Within a traditional merchant account your funds are deposited directly into your checking or savings account within 48 hours from the time the credit card transaction is settled.

With PayPal, you must wait until the funds from the sale are deposited to your PayPal account before you can request another transfer of these funds to your business account, which can take another three to five days.

By holding on to your money longer in your Pay Pal account, the Company is collecting more interest on the entirety of their sub merchants base. AKA - Your Account X 17MM others . Placing those funds in out side Agency Accounts with three other Banks,  SEC Filling specifically point 14. above. Unfortunately is not FDIC protected.

IMO this  translates to  facing greater risk as PayPal can terminate your account and or place a hold on your funds with no notice to you. In some cases Indefinitely. In the US regulatory banking system -that is Illegal. But they are not a Bank! 

PayPal does charge extra fees relating to payment processing

1.5% Cross-Border Transaction Fee: For US merchants who accept online payments from buyers out of the country, or in-person transactions involving a card from outside the US, PayPal charges a 1.5% cross-border fee.

2.5% Currency Conversion Fee: If PayPal has to convert the currency before it deposits the funds in your own account, you’ll pay another 2.5% conversion fee. Whether you have to pay the conversion fee depends on the customer’s bank - whether it will handle the currency conversion (usually at a cost to the customer).

1.5%+ 2.5% + 2.9% = 6.9 % + $0.30
Visa and master card fees are listed here
https://www.hostmerchantservices.com/current-us-interchange-rates 

most vendors charge + $0.10

There is also 
$20 Chargeback Fee: Chargeback fees are pretty standard, and if a customer files a chargeback against you, PayPal will assess a $20 fee in addition to withdrawing the funds to cover the transaction amount the highest rated in the industry. 

"Apart from the issue of account terminations or funding holds, the only other consistent complaint about PayPal is its customer service, and reports vary. Some merchants say they’ve never had a problem with customer service. Others say that their support reps have been downright unhelpful when they’ve called in. Fortunately, PayPal offers extensive self-help resources so you should be able to deal with most technical issues without having to contact PayPal directly."  

Just Saying