Preamps: Rogue Audio RP-1 vs. Quicksilver Audio Line Stage Pre - Sonic Differences


How do they sound?
iggy7
"The Rogue sounds more modern. "

Which means more neutral more natural or more real? Honestly, more "modern" means exactly what? I'm familiar with the term "neutral" which I am still trying to come to "terms" with over all these years but "modern"? what exactly is that?

Haven't heard the Rogue but am familiar with all the current Quicksilver preamplifiers. While I am a big fan of their amplifiers, less so of their preamplifiers as they impart too much of a "signature"  on the musical presentation IME, too rich sounding would sum it up for me. They might be something that you might like in the context of your system but you don't give any details of  what you have and what you are looking for so there really is no way to help you in a meaningful way.



 
Based on my experience, the RP-1 is very sensitive your amp's input impedance.   My amp's is around 40Kohm and it sounded lifeless....an obvious loss of high frequency air and detail.

So the old adage applies.  Bring them both home, test 'em out, and pick the winner.

"Which means more neutral more natural or more real? Honestly, more "modern" means exactly what? I'm familiar with the term "neutral" which I am still trying to come to "terms" with over all these years but "modern"? what exactly is that?"

You answered the question yourself.

"Haven't heard the Rogue but am familiar with all the current Quicksilver preamplifiers. While I am a big fan of their amplifiers, less so of their preamplifiers as they impart too much of a "signature" on the musical presentation IME, too rich sounding would sum it up for me."

There's a definition of a classic sound. A more modern sound is less of the above qualities, and more neutrality.

You need to take your meds. You're getting too wound up over such a small matter.


"So the old adage applies.  Bring them both home, test 'em out, and pick the winner."

There's no better way to do it.

I have the big brother to the Rogue, the RP-5.  I absolutely love it.  I filled it with NOS Mullard tubes and the sound is to die for.  I had no problems with it matching my amp whose input Impedance is 50K ohms.  It blows away my Audible Illusions Modulus 3B tube preamp.
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M green 27
((((The QS has the classic tube sound. The Rogue sounds more modern.))))
 Are you sure you listened to both recently ?????

Quicksilver 2015 latest version 12AT7 more alive then prior efforts also drives lower imp loads.

 Rogue 12 Au7 more classic tube sound with nice fullness.
 As Ceder grove mentioned
 Bring them both home, test 'em out, and pick the winner.

Notice the Output Impedance is 100 ohms,
Line Stage Preamp

New for 2015, the latest version of the Quicksilver Line Stage offers a simplified switching and signal path. With almost 10 times the output current capability of the previous Line Stage it will drive any amplifier input impedance and interconnect cable with ease. The new Linestage embodies the Quicksilver philosophy "simplicity is the essence of good engineering".

Price $995. add $45 for home theater pass-through
Price for 230 volt/50 Hz add $55.
Instruction Manual



Specifications

Bandwidth 0.1 Hz to 100 KHz +0,-3db IM Distortion less than 0.08% at 1v output Harmonic Distortion less than 0.08% at 1v output from 10 Hz to 40 KHz Gain 18 db Input Impedance 100 Kohm, 20 Hz-20 KHz Output Impedance 100 ohms, 20 Hz-20 KHz Output Polarity +180 degrees Maximum Input 30 volts RMS, 20 Hz-20 KHz Maximum Output 60 volts RMS, 20 Hz-20 KHz Noise 20 microvolts RMS residual IHF weighted noise output with gain control at minimum Tube Complement 2-12AT7 Dimensions 3"H, 9 1/2"D, 15"W Front Panel 3 1/4"H, 17"W Weight 12 lbs. U.S. Warranty 3 years parts and labor
Tubes 90 days
Quicksilver has two linestage preamps. The remote uses 6dj8 tubes and the non remote uses 12at7 tubes. Which one are you looking at ?