preamp for dartzeel amp?


Hi,

Anyone usen listen, or can recommend a preamp for the dartzeel amp. I cannot afford the dartzeel preamp which costs at least 15k used!

I current use the emm labs preamp/dac combo with the emmlabs transport and evolution acoustic mm2.speakers.

I most interested in tube preamp or tubelike or hybrid preamps!

Thanks

Mike
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Showing 2 responses by french_fries

get a rowland consummate. i know it's old and cheap, but it sounds beautiful as well as detailed. it just doesn't thrust the music at you. just make sure it has the upgraded (most recent) line stage modules, which are far superior to the originals. also, you can pop the lid and adjust input and output impedences, gain, etc. without tools or solder. plus it's fully balanced from input to output.
if that isn't quite good enough you could get a synergy 2i,
with a third of the features and flexibility, but an aircraft aluminum case.
otoh, i am so opinionated these days maybe i shouldn't even suggest this considering the dartzeel is an $18K amplifier. but from EVERYTHING i've heard and read, the dart and the older rowland gear seem to be designed to do very similar things.
if the dartzeel preamp came two ways- with and without the phono stage you could probably afford it. but they make two products and are probably not going to make a third in the forseable future. which must be very frustrating for those who want monoblocks with at least 200W into 8ohms, or
a linestage, or a standalone phono stage. with all due respect to the musicality of their stuff, perhaps way to much ink is being spilled about them while other companies are making components that are just as good...hell, you could buy an old pass aleph amplifier and go nuts over how tubelike it sounds (couldn't you??)
...just my 2 euro's worth...
please notice my disclaimer that i AM quite opinionated, and must concede that the performance of the dart preamp is probably as good as people say it is.
unfortunately, I am limited to the time i heard an older rowland system with avalon ascent-II's, properly set up at a dealer's showroom. he played some charlie byrd on a SOTA turntable and it sounded pretty magical. this was quite some time ago, of course. i had to smile when he said "imagine what it will sound like in a couple of weeks 'cause the speakers haven't even been broken in yet." i was looking at a system that was way beyond my reach- the outboard crossovers on the avalons were something i could never have imagined a speaker company would consider necessary. the other pieces of the system held me in a similar state of awe. anyhow, the preamp was a rowland consummate which was the current state of the art (around 6 or 7 grand without phono). listening to charlie play his classical guitar with such an abundance of subtle nuances revealed was pure bliss. i imagine that having "that sound" in my house today would certainly be more than adequate (with a nice alblum collection of course). i often place myself in an audio "time machine" when i read the praises of equipment that tops the current list of the "best of the best", so i am not trying to deliberately be arbitrary or argumentative, but simply trying to offer a different point of view based on a number of experiences i've had over the years. my brother has a pair of pass aleph 1.2 mono's for example, driving sonus faber extremas. putting on a cd or an alblum over at his apartment, even with mediocre acoustics, has such an organic quality, that i become completely absorbed by what i'm hearing. plus he shares my love of jazz with equal passion and has a cd and record collection to die for. his preamp, btw, is an aleph-p which got killer reviews when it came out- well deserved if my hearing is worth anything.
I need to stop somewhere, so i'll do it now. if the dart provides as much pleasure as i have experienced from the rowland and/or the pass lab preamps, that's fantastic. that it can do so much more than that i can't get my poor brain around, but i am sure that it does. anyhow, i just don't like the color scheme...! (kidding).