pre for mc452


Hi, i have MC452 with C220 with gold lion.
I would like to imprve this pre.
Only i play DAC or CD. Not phono.
Im seeing LS17 or c2300.
LS17 can do good match with mc powers ? (input impedance 22kohms)
mati1979
Nothing better than the matching of same manufacture, designed and engineered by the same team.
I always match my system and never require any mod or tweak.
"09-25-15: Beewax
Nothing better than the matching of same manufacture, designed and engineered by the same team.
I always match my system and never require any mod or tweak."

Nonsense. Its definitely possible to get better sound with mixed components. There's so many reasons for this, a book would have to be written to go over them all.
Exactly, that why I rather listen and enjoy the music instead of trying to read and to understand the author's (one person) opinions.

Yes, very possible to get better sound but the odds will against you.
"Yes, very possible to get better sound but the odds will against you.
Beewax (System | Answers | This Thread)"

Nonsense again. The only time the odds will be against you is if you don't know what you're doing. And if that's the case, having everything from 1 manufacturer won't help. You'll fail no matter what you do. Besides, there's VERY few companies that make a complete line of products. And the ones that I can think of, I don't care for.

I too spend a lot of time listening to music. And that's exactly why I won't take any easy short cuts. I have never heard a single brand system that can even approach what I can do matching the components myself, and for a lot less money.
Beewax,

I just looked at your system. I see you telling everyone else what to do, but you don't put your money where your mouth is. McIntosh makes speakers and turntables. Why not follow your own advice? You can't get better sound with an all Mac system?
Only one reason "MONEY". The speaker XRT2K and turntable MT10 cost a lot more $$$$$$.
09-28-15: Beewax
Only one reason "MONEY". The speaker XRT2K and turntable MT10 cost a lot more $$$$$$.

Maybe the TT, but not the speakers. If I remember correctly, your B&W's go for about $8000. McIntosh makes speakers that cost less than 8k. I've heard them. You didn't have to mix and match, but you did. And you were smart to do so. Why settle for less sound quality.
C2300 is one of the best tube preamps ever made, but I don't feel it would be all that great a choice for exclusively digital sources.  While your digitals will work, you can only use whatever DACs they have in them.  
If that is sufficient, great, but I prefer a broader set of alternatives if they are available.  In this case, they are and for not much more $$$.
C2500 has McIntosh's best DAC system in a separate sub-chassis.  If you went there, you could experiment with S/PDF and fiber connections from your sources into the Mc DAC and find out which combinations you like better.
Good luck and happy listening!
let's go back in track with Mati1979"s topic, I was talking about the impedance between the amp and pre-amp will match perfectly with the same manufacture and generation.
BTW - B&W 802D2 was $15,000 and Mc XRT speakers cost a lot more.
While the C2300 is one of the best tube preamps ever made and a superior match to your MC452, you may find that it doesn't offer ideal flexibility with your all-digital sources. It was really designed for analog sources.

The C2500 on the other hand, has McIntosh's best-reviewed DAC system in a separate sub-chassis. It would allow you to compare and contrast the DACs in your digital sources through S/PDIF or fiber optic input. The USB input permits PCM up to 32/192. You also get all the superb analog performance capability as a bonus.

Good luck & happy listening!