I hope , you will let us know , which one you choose .
I you buy a used processor ; Acurus warranty is for the first owner only.
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´´The effects of superior room correction can be huge and I think would overwhelm any other differences. ´´
The room correction improvement is about 20%.
It can not compensate for a very bad acoustic room.
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@soix
Do you include the ASPEQT room correction ?
The ASPEQT will received firmware updates in the futur .
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@dsk3
If there is a ACT4 liquidation , and you get a real big rebate , it may be a processor
to consider.
You may wait a little . There is supposed to be an hardware upgrade availlable
in the future for DTS X Pro , and IMAX Enhance.
You may ask the dealer to add this upgrade to your futur unit .
Just my 2 cents
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If you decide that it is ACT4 that you want , and do not have a dealer.
PM me . There is a Audiogon member that is also a Acurus US dealer.
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At a discount , you can always resell it , without loosing too much , it if it does not please you.
It is not easy to imagine , what is Home Theater immersive experience .
You almost have to try it , to know what it is .
There are many things , going on, that are different from 2 channels audio
Other processors are more ´´ Plug & Play ´´
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By the way , I am not a US citizen
I am a canadian from Québec
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You should write : @maxwave instead of maxwave.
That way , I receive an Email that is telling me , someone has refered to me.
Otherwise , I may come back to a thread only in several days
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@dsk3
I still hope that you let us know , which processor , you choose.
And what is you thoughts about immersive audio.
To often with threads , many people took the time and do some researchs
to answer OP questions . And we never knew , what happended .
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@dsk3
Have you talked to an Acurus dealer or with Indy Audio Labs ?
I hope , you had the same rebate than the add on US Audio mart.
With Lyngdorf , you will own a highly regarded brand.
They will still be there in 10 years .
let us know about your thoughs when your unit will be calibrated and burned in
Take a look at @rbertalotto thread this morning
Pierre
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DTS X Pro and IMAX Enhance was supposed to be availlable in 1 st quater
2021 …..
calibration
- global EQ : Low shelving filter F G . High Shelving filter F G
- PEQ :Five bands F G Q
I have tryed to send here photos but it does’t work
I have never known , how to calibrate my unit , so I have bought the ASPEQT kit
( it took a year and a halft before I received it )
Speaker ´s calibration is easy if you have a spl meter
The 4 aux out speakers are replicates of the speakers in the main speakers layout.
But no delay , no cross over for these 4 aux out speakers.
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Do not forget that if you buy the ACT4 without the DTS X Pro and want
it afterward , you will have to ship it , at your own expense to IAL facilities.
You can easily figured out 2 months before it will be returned to you.
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@dsk3
Look at my picture , you will see what the PEQ 5 bands looks like
Let me know if you want to see the global EQ
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@dsk3
If you decide on the ACT4 , be sure you have a good dealer who knows the
products he sell. Some dealers carry 20 brands . They do not know everything.
A home theater processor is a complex gear . No dealer is able to solve the
kind of programing issue with my firmware . Only one person at IAL has that knowledge . It makes , owning IAL processors , quite risky.
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McIntosh MX 170 uses the Room Perfect room calibration too
And you have a very solid brand that still , should be in business 10 years from now …….
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5 HDMI 2.1 Inputs Instead of 8 HDMI 2.1 is not relevant in my opinion.
There are no Blueray player that are 8K .
Apple TV and NVidia Shield Pro are 4K
I think , only gaming gears like PS5 ( ? ) and others , are 8K.
Some television are 8K , but for the 8K effects , you need at least 85 inches.
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McIntosh gears keep their values over time
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If you want 2.1 HDMI , DTS X Pro , and your are mostly ´´digital ´´ Lyngdorf is the way to go instead of McIntosh.
McIntosh is always , a litlle late in the game.
Maybe McIntosh MX 180 will have these features.
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I am not an expert on Home Theater system.
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Lyngdorf and McIntosh are firmware upgradeable.
More over , the firmware are upgradeable right from the processor.
No need for a Laptop computer which is a mess.
I think , the Lyngdorf is hardware upgradeable , but not the McIntosh.
Don’t be fooled, the hardware upgrades are expensive ( parts , labor , shipping) Some manufecturers use this upgradebility as a marketing strategy against the midfi receivers.
The best ´´ no need to upgrade hardware ´´ is the Trinnov processors.
Except for the HDMI 2.1 that should be availlable soon; the Trinnov firmware and audio format can be upgraded whatever it might be, without the need of hardware upgrade.
I am not sure but StormAudio may also, not need hardware upgrades
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@dsk3
@auxinput is wright ( as usual ) If you are looking mostly for the new features ,you may buy
a Yamaha RX- A8A receiver . But I think , the ´´old ´´ McIntosh MX 160 will
still sound a lot better.
By the way , the cost of hardware upgrades ( all included ) cost as much as the brand new top Denon HT receiver .
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@dsk3
Have you ever unplgged and remove a 20 channels processor , to ship for an hardware upgrade ?
20 interconnects cables to the power amplifiers and subwoofers ,one power cord , one ethernet cable , HDMI cables , several interconnect cables to other sources !!!
You have to tag , almost each cables to know where to put theme back.
It is , half a day , of pure pleasure :-))))
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For the past four years , I have plugged and unplugged my whole system so many times ; that , today , at the moment I touch a cable ; I hyperventilate and sweat like
if I was in a sauna .
I don’t want to remove anything anymore .
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@dsk3
The add above is from a dealer
You can communicate with the dealer through USAudio mart
Just ask him about the upgradability of the Lyngdrof
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@dsk3
If Lyngdrof MP 60 2.1 is hardware and firmware upgradeable ( the later , I am sure ) the 3000$ rebate will pay you the next hardware upgrade .
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@dsk3
Lyngdorf MP 40 upgrade to 2.1 Febuary 01 2021
So the Lyngdorf processors are ´´ hardware upgradebeable ´´
´´ The processor 2.1 upgrade program offered to current owners will be similar to the upgrade program that is offered for Lyngdorf MP-60 and Steinway & Sons P300. ´´
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@soix
My reference at that time for this discussion was about the Home Theater processor room calibration , not AVR.
The likes of Anthem , Lyngdorf , McIntosh , Audiocontrol , Trinnov
I think , it is like a religion or ´´ Art ´´ . Very subjective . You beleive or you don’t . You like or you don’t .
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Anthem AVM90 with ARC Genesis room calibration
19 channels
Availlable : Winter 2022
I wonder if Anthem processor are hardware upgradeable ?
HDMI 2.1
DTS X Pro
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Anthem AVM 90
- HDMI board is upgradeable to accommodate possible future hardware updates
- Both surround sound processors have decoding for Dolby Atmos, DTS:X Pro, and IMAX Enhanced.
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