Poor Fritz

There’s no better value and no one as willing to make bespoke speakers out there than Fritz and these forums treat his speakers as if they cost $200K.
They don’t. They are remarkably affordable and yet potential customers put him through the absolute ringer, asking for custom features, going through 2 or 3 models of home auditions and maybe not even buying any of them.

Look, you buy what you want to buy, but I think not enough credit is given to the man or his speakers in terms of the overall value proposition and I think this is a disservice overall.  If you write a 5 page review, please keep this very much in mind that you are not reviewing Wilson or Focal's flagships.  Maybe he doesn't deserve quite the same scrutiny.


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@rocray -- happy to tell you about my experiences if you want to P.M. me.
@eriksquires Erik, I agree with you so wholeheartedly that I reviewed two of his speakers even though (for circumstantial reasons, mainly) I went with some Salks. Honestly, there is a small set of extraordinarily capable speaker makers who are both artisanal and affordable, who listen and give great value and customer service. Salk and Fritz are two of them. And Fritz works extraordinarily hard and is a one man company. My hat’s off to him. People who give him hard time are really obtuse. But the reviewers know and many of us know the truth. 40 reviews, here: http://www.fritzspeakers.com/sound.asp
@decooney Your answer may be the best one I’ve ever read on this common question. 
It is exactly the kind of answer that makes me wish Audiogon could have a FAQ page in each category.  
@cd318 put it very nicely:

At the end of the day Fritz speakers will have to compete with other makes at similar price points. I'm sure that Fritz will be very aware of this. It's probably in his head morning noon and night.
My guess is that Fritz is no longer that worried. He has been in business, successful, with people still talking about and buying his speakers for, what, 30+ years? I'll be lucky if anyone talks about what I do 10 or 20 years from now, let alone 30. 
@kenjit When you see a doctor, why do you pay money? Experience, expertise, training, and good advice. Fritz is in his shop, eating sawdust, trying different woods, experimenting with crossovers, trying different amps, creating a website, going to shows, contacting reviewers and customers, packing up speakers, arranging with shippers -- and all to do what? Make a living.

Some people learn, work, create, and risk. Some people just talk. You’re a talker. That’s it.

You continue to tilt against windmills, thinking you’re the Don Quixote of the audiophile world. But in fact, you do harm, not good, by disparaging good people doing good work, work which makes other people happy.

Get a hobby, one which preferably requires that your fingers be occupied somewhere beside a keyboard.
Kenjit, I will not engage further with you. Because that is *truly* something which is not *worth* my time.

Erik has raised a good question and if there's more on it, I'll read about it and possibly reply. But I will not allow myself to be drawn in to more nonsense. No need to ban you, Kenjit. Ignoring you is simpler.
Regarding the comment about the price mentioned, he will do them for $3250, shipping included. And return shipping if you don't like them. The Tektons mentioned are a much different speaker, so to each their own. But consider that Tekton will charge you for shipping one way, so if you try them and return them, you're out on shipping, but not on Fritz.

The other thing to mention is, as @jond  says, there are lots of factors to consider. The expertise and "ear" of the maker is one; the other is that sometimes supporting good merchants just requires that price not always be the bottom line. I buy books in my local independent bookstore despite what they cost on Amazon because, well, spending my money that way gives me a whole other kind of value. I pay a bit more for coffee at my local roastery/café, too. Anyone who is shopping for speakers in the thousands can afford to not insist that price is the ultimate deal-maker/deal-breaker.
@isochronism LOL! The only way to avoid having to read the whole thread is to make sure that your line is *really* original.
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+1 goose. Yes if they came from England or Denmark. Or, if Fritz had a huge facility or if he had a staff, with wages and benefits, or if he had a webmaster or a PR person…and on and on. What would that add? He does not have economy of scale but he has creative control and none of those other costs.
Possibly of interest: I have created a shorter video version of my Fritz review on Youtube: https://youtu.be/Hn3h3Tk6PzE
Don't wrestle with a pig; you only get dirty and the pig enjoys it.
@yogiboy Thank you! Just a boiled down version of the longer one, but sometimes that's what we need. Plus: pictures!