platine motor with nylon thread


I'm running my platine verdier table with the nylon thread and am wondering if the thread needs replacing at any specific interval.Does it's strength or quality wear out with extended use?

Thanks Mike.
pechtm

Showing 5 responses by kftool

"Gonners'"-- Those of you using thread drive might want to try making a belt using 30 lb. test Spyder Wire, braided not monofilament, WITHOUT teflon coating. Tie a single SQUARE knot and bond it with a drop of super glue off the tip of a hat pin. According to the manufacturer it stretches about 3/4 of 1% in length. Unless you have some type of vernier adjustment on the motor's position, or a very steady hand, it may be difficult to optimise the tension on the belt.

$15 will buy the smallest roll available, a ten lifetime supply. Any good sporting goods store will have it

Ken
George,

Any woven line will transmit more vibration than a mono type. If the vibration in the drive system is sufficiently high, a lighter, more elastic drive belt will certainly lower the transmitted vibration to the platter. At the same time the belt will act as a spring system as it passes around the drive pulley. It will be under tension as a point on the belt is travelling from the platter to the drive pulley and in a more relaxed state after it goes around the drive pulley and travels toward the platter.

I suppose that if the flywheel effect of the platter is great enough, the spring effect may be minute enough to be unimportant.

In my case I'm driving the platter from 3 flywheels that each weigh as much as the platter itself. I'm looking for as much driving power as possible. The woven texture of the belt not only yields better traction but also enables the super glue to get a better grip on the knot.

Looking at the many different table-drive systems we can see how a designer can use the many variables at his disposal to attain the performance level he is seeking for the price point he's aiming for.

Ken
Clio09,

The line you need to look for is branded "Stren Super Braid." The first roll I purchased had Teflon, I didn't realize that fact until I got home and read the information on the box. Who reads directions ? I went back to the store and asked about a non Teflon coated line. The salesman didn't even know fishing line could be Teflon coated. I began reading the boxes on display, they had to have 100 different types. I bought a box of 20 and 30 lb test and brought it home to play with.

The next day I called the mfg in Spirit Lake Iowa. 1 866 447 8736. It appears one company owns all the brands and produces them all in the same facility. Their tech department supplied me with the data on the % of stretch on the various lines. They also emailed 6 different types of anglers Knots to experiment with.

The suggestion for the knot type and super glue came from Harry Weisfield at VPI.

The product id number is szno-00200, and the sqew # is 0-42083-61200-8, $15.99 for a 125 yd roll.

If you try it, let us know how you like it.

Ken
Clio09,

It will be great to find out how it works for you, as it will be a month or so before I can tie mine up and try it.

Pechtm, your Platine has a massive platter, if your try the braided line , your results would be interesting.

Ken
Clio09.

I read info on the Scheu tables a while back and noticed the motor -pulley configuration. I can understand your problem with the vibration with your table. It sure seems that mono would be the ticket for your table. Mono acts more like a spring and vibration absorber that would enhance the performance of your table.

When Harry Weisfield suggested I use braided spyder wire it was based on the fact that he knew I was going to use 3 HRX drives. Each delivers the power to the table via a 15 lb flywheel that won't be prone to vibration problems that a lower mass drive system does. To each his own.

I remember the Weathers turntable , arm , and FM cartridge that I first heard in 1956 or 57. A clock type motor driving a platter around a few ounces at most, using a balsa wood arm, I think. Back then the the sound was great when comparred to the other outstanding tables of that era. Garrard 301s, Rek O Kut idler drive with huge Hysteresis Synchronous motors and Thorens TD 124s. I know I've forgotten a few. I still own 2 of them.

I hope your time and trouble will pay off for you, let us know your results.

Ken