One day I may just take you up on that. Boy that stuff costs almost as much as printer ink! It better be good for that price. How about those Omega E Mats or "The Gate"? I already have an AC re-generator that powers my whole system so won’t be getting a "The Gate" anytime soon. They are certainly priced like products marketed to audiophiles.
Omega E Mats were reviewed earlier. Very effective. The beauty of the E Mats is you just slap one on the outside of the breaker box, and by the time you walk back and cue up a side the sound is amazing. Roughly the same as applying Total Contact to your whole system, only in a fraction of the time, and you can remove or move it a whole lot easier. Whereas the beauty of Total Contact, it is so concentrated just a tiny amount does your whole system. I'm talking just the easy to get at connections. That right there is roughly equivalent to one E Mat. But there's so much left! Well look at what I've done, and that's only about half the tube!
That's what makes TC such a bargain. I'm serious, by the way. If you came over I would just give you the little brush that comes with the TC. If that's all you do is get what's left on there onto your speaker terminals, and however much more you can spread (its more a matter of time and patience than material, it spreads out real thin!) just that little bit right there will be enough I bet you notice.
One time listening after painting TC everywhere I got the bright idea to paint my Koetsu. Without adding anything to the brush, just the little bit left on there, I put the thinnest coating possible on my Koetsu. Yeah. It used to be a Koetsu Black Goldline. Now its a Koetsu Gray Goldline. Not gonna say it was jaw-dropping but such a trace amount on such a small low-voltage part, amazing it can be heard at all.
The Gate I am told repeatedly is like a whole stack of E Mats and TC. Frank (aka oregonpapa) and a few others are nothing but gushing about it. The main difference being The Gate is designed to be installed and actually wired directly into the breaker panel.
Something a lot are understandably reluctant to do themselves. Pretty sure everyone so far has hired an electrician. Not me! I wired my house. I've installed a whole panel, added a sub panel, added circuits, its just not a problem. But my stereo with the step-down transformer is 220v. All The Gate currently are 110v. Now we have been talking about this, and Krissy says she can make one for 220v.
Anyway, main thing is everything so far works so well you can hardly believe it, but they are very, very different in terms of how easy they are to use. That's why I cover a lot of these details. Tweaks like these are what its all about.
Here's an idea. Take a day, head over here, stop by Definitive Audio in Seattle (or Bellevue, which is even closer to me and easier to get to) listen to their flagship million (yes, million) dollar Wilson/AT/D'Agostino system. Then come by my place. Listen to my system, less than the Washington Sales Tax you'd pay for theirs. Let people know what you think.
Shout out to mahgister for promoting the importance of tweaks... and Krissy for making this stuff! TC Rules!
Nice review, MC. When you ask someone if they are right sort of person to use TC, I like to say that everyone is the right person to use TC in its most direct use and purpose, which is to enhance the signal that travels through the temporary connections we must all make to connect up our amps, speakers, front ends, etc. to each other and then to sources of power.
I used to believe I had all the right connections; over-sized spades, custom pins, high-end XLR terminations---all big areas of contact plated with gold and rhodium, fitting snugly into their receptacles---nothing better.....as it turned out, I wasn't even close in my assumptions. No contacting surface, whether it be a blade, a sheath, a pin, a shaft, a flat clamping surface is so perfectly smooth, round, square, perfectly plated, etc that it mates perfectly.
One of Tim Mrock's areas of study was the micro-arcing that occurs between these imperfect interfaces. TC is a graphene-based 'paste' that fills in these voids and cures over weeks into what is a highly-conductive polymer that is a soft solder joint that also prevents all oxidation. It is not a scalene oil, a solvent cleaner or a suspension containing gold particles, etc. that comprise what have been called the finest contact treatments out there. Total Contact works beyond all of the better-known products, some quite expensive.
When you can consistantly discern the difference between older drum sets using animal skins and modern drum sets using acrylic, you can be assured that Total Contact is somewhere in the system.
Exactly. Or like I said the other day, the rain at the beginning of Taproot Manuscript are individual rain drops, and its clear some are falling on the ground, some on a tarp- and its a canvas tarp not plastic!
To continue the speaker crossover discussion in the duplicate thread:
Like your speakers, the crossover access on the Legacy Signature IIIs is readily available. Four screws on the cover plate and Walla! there it is.
I liberally pasted just about everything I could reach in the crossovers with TC and obtained a very nice SQ improvement as a result. Highly recommended.
When I treated the crossovers, I hadn't thoroughly understood the effectiveness of pasting surfaces with TC. Therefore, one project ahead of me is the removal of the crossover covers and pasting the inside surface of the covers. The pasting of the inside of the covers for the wall duplexes were a nice improvement, so I'm expecting the same from the covers to the crossovers.
By the way, check to see if you have a corrugated pipe leading from your electric meter to the house. Mine leaves the underside of the meter, then disappears under the house. This pipe houses the wires leading from the meter. At Tim's suggestion, I pasted as much of that "pipe" as I could reach. Another significant improvement to be had there.
One of the first of many new things I encountered getting into high end audio many years ago was the number of really tiny little companies I'd never heard of before. Can't recall any names now but definitely still do recall how dismissive I was. Only many years later did it begin to sink in the extent to which I had been conditioned by big ad campaigns to feel this way. Its hard to overestimate the extent to which they are able to manipulate a person this way. Think of it however you like. The fact is they don't spend billions and billions year after year for no good reason. Think about it.
Small niche firms like Perfect Path Solutions are in a tough spot. They can make the best most magic audio goop in the world, but how in the world is anyone gonna find out? Advertising is expensive. Especially to reach a tiny niche market.
What I've done so far is really only about what I did around a year ago when I was excited about my new Koetsu, and for sure when I got blown away by the Herron VTPH2A phono stage. Not one person back then attacked me for being a shill, or fanatical, for writing almost exactly the same level of accolades. Go read the Herron review. It even has the same Wife reaction in it. Yet for some reason not one person was moved to accuse me or any of the Herron users who agreed of being a shill or fanatic.
These reviews are not shills. I am not fanatical. Words have consequences.
Keith Herron is getting up there in years. Not old old, but thinking about retirement old. The economic realities of manufacture are you don't just build one at a time. Oh you might assemble one at a time. But the chassis is the most expensive part and you have to tie up a lot of money in inventory to have lots of them made at one time. Keith was just about done and ready to sell me what would then be just about his last 2A, and I am not making this up but he told me reading my review he talked to his wife and decided to order another batch. So I am not gonna take credit for the VTPH2A continuing to be made, but it was a factor and that is straight from the man himself.
DJ Casser was a commodities trader who developed Black Diamond Racing out of a love of audio. I was a fanatical shill I guess you would say for BDR back in the 90's long before many of you even heard of it. The reason its hardly around any more, DJ passed away.
Now, Total Contact. It happens to have been invented and developed by a genius named Tim Mrock who like DJ passed long before his time, which in Tim's case was also quite suddenly and recently. His wife Krissy is trying to run the company, and its not like she wasn't involved before but come on, do I have to state the obvious? Go look at the site. Seriously. Go and look! https://perfectpathtechnologies.com/product/total-contact Thought it was weird when I went to buy and there was no way to buy on-line, you have to call. And this is long enough already I'm not going into the whole story except to say every time I think I know just how low law and government can go something like this comes along and moves the bar even lower.
So it really doesn't bother me all that much if some people want to call me names. I can live with myself just fine.
“without PPT mats and Total Contact, your system cannot sound as good as it is capable of“.
I am happy to hear you’re enjoying fruits of PPT tweaks. But to make statement like above shows a poor taste and bit of arrogance. Maybe you got carried away..... I am not discounting the effectiveness of PPT products but they are not the only available tweaks (thank goodness) that can elevate your system performance.
What would you say, if I tell you without Nordost QRT components your system cannot sound as good as it is capable of?
Latik I think you are a bit too hard ...
I know myself that most people ( I said most because they are exceptions) dont know the true potential S.Q inherently linked to a right embedding of any system at any price they already own or even owned in the past...
These embeddings are mandatory to know and to live the potential that any audio system is capable of, modulo some controls, treatment and various tweaks...I lived this experience myself, with no PPT products at all...If I lived this experience myself, with other homemade methods, this means that one of the most ingrained illusion in audio is that buying electronic components
(dac, conditioner, amp, speakers, headphones) is only by itself the principal way to upgrade an audio system...
This is false generally and the greatest audio illusion; the best way to upgrade an audio system is keeping it first, and then addressing the problems linked to the 4 principals embeddings: the electrical grid of the house and room, the acoustical field of the room, the vibratory-resonance embeddings methods, and the various necessary tweaks to decrease the noise floor... PPT products precisely address some of that, then I am absolutely not surprised by positive reactions of people who bought these products at all...No they are not the only remedies, but a product way much professional and efficient than any homemade solutions even mine ... In my case no change in electronical components rivals the 4 remedies I tweak with homemade solutions for these 4 problems, no upgrade at all... Then it must be the case way more with serious products like T.C. or other PPT products ... Am I arrogant? if yes I apologize, but truth is truth...My best to all...
Take it easy, I sense no arrogance in your post. While I agree with you on the 4 principals, all I am saying is PPT tweaks are not the only game in town. There are no absolutes in audio. Each of us (including you) has taken a different approach to address these very basic principals to enhance our listening experience regardless of the choice of electronics.
Has anyone compared TC with Stabilant 22?
>>>>Yes, I’ve also compared it, not one to one comparisons for obvious reasons, with Cramolin, Contact, Silclear, Quicksilver, Quicksilver Gold, PWB Sol Electret. Here’s one for you - have you ever tried painting electrical contacts violet with a magic marker?
Mahgister, mining pure gold:
one of the most ingrained illusion in audio is that buying electronic components (dac, conditioner, amp, speakers, headphones) is only by itself the principal way to upgrade an audio system...
So true. Music to my ears.
the best way to upgrade an audio system is keeping it first, and then addressing the problems linked to the 4 principals embeddings: the electrical grid of the house and room, the acoustical field of the room, the vibratory-resonance embeddings methods, and the various necessary tweaks to decrease the noise floor.
1. Grail Components are an illusion
2. Keep what you have
3. Improve electric flow and fields
4. Address acoustic fields in your room
5. Control vibrations
6. Lower the noise floor
Anyone in the Seattle area is welcome to come by and hear for themselves the power of these rules. First stop by Definitive Audio and listen to $1.3M of Grail Components with almost no tweaks. Then come to my place and hear what all these rules can do for a system with no Grail Components.
Good points on other tweaks out there--great advise on working with what you have, spending less. Let me qualify my claim regarding PPT products: They are the most effective benefit/cost audio accessories ever introduced. I don’t include cables as accessories or tweaks. Powered or passive boxes, blocks, dots, aftermarket receptacles and fuses, risers, pads, points, pucks, bases, transducers, are fair comparisons to PPT products.
Spend a little on some dots or transducers or a receptacle, and you will get some benefit. Spend the same on PPT Total Contact, and you will get a great improvement across the spectrum, audio and visual. Spend $2250 on an SR Tranquility Base, and you will get a good improvement to a component that will benefit a system. The same on four PPT E+ mats and one supply of Total Contact will upgrade your entire system to the equivalent of 2-3 components you may want but don’t yet have. That’s how good these accessories are.
Anyone willing to make some comparisons of products, prices, benefits in you systems?
My audio system being modest, I cannot say that it sound great ( except for me) especially when I look some virtual magnificent systems here, but I can say that I only look now for my past and new music files, without bothering myself by my solely dreamed (but not affordable for me, 15,000 dollars) audio system...
Past some threshold, music is the only world we live in, and we forget about dreamed audio system (I will buy it anyway if I can for sure! :) ) or about the actual upgrading materials or tweaks... It is my case with a very modest cost system... The more difficult quality to be gained were : natural timbre of voices and instruments, and immersing encompassing holographic 3-d imaging in nearfield listening and in regular field listening with disappearance of the speakers when music fills my little room...
Tweaks are now just that, a little experimental playing, not a life or death question for me, like in the past days when I does not like really the exact same audio system I am in love with now... Thanks to all and my best to you...
If we speak about cost, all my homemade tweaks cost me half the price of my audio system, 500 hundred dollars ( I dont count the 6 years of trials and errors with new electronic components and experiments) and the final results are for me staggeringly surprising...
By the way the truth is Total Contact is made with the carbon based skin of some audiophiles that has spoken too much and I am the first to be afraid indeed... I vouch now for silence... :)
Lets speak the products ….
Thanks to all and my best to you...
Humbly submitted for your consideration. How not (rpt not) to be able to tell what a system sounds like,
1. What the owner says about it.
2. What someone else says about it.
3. What the system looks like in a photo.
4. The brand names of the system, including cables.
5. Lack of tweaks in the system. (Gotcha! That’s actually a clue to the system’s sound - bad!)
Thanks for your interest in my tweaks... But I think that they will not compare to the impact of all the PPT products in a system... They have great impact for me and a price/ quality ratio out of the roof tough...So I am addressing to people who begins and are short of money ...
The rules that I discovered by accident and experiment about the 4 embeddings applied to all tough, nevermind the price of a system...
If you are curious, you will see my modest room in the "virtual system" section... I will not transform this thread about PPT products in mine and I also have a thread....
I wish you the best from my heart...
"Thinking crowd" was removed for some reason.
Still, I will repeat the question. Does PPT provide samples of TC? The way many reputable companies show prospective customers how good their products are?
Even the smallest manufacturer with minimal advertising budget would let you audition their, let’s say, amplifier before buying it. In fact, I bet they would be proud of it.