Something is not set correctly in your receiver.
If the speakers are set to "small" no lows will go to them.
Also try just running them as a single speaker with a jumper, rather than biamping and see what that does.
(In my HT I have Canton CD300's and the largest driver is 3" in diameter, and I get pretty good bass...)
Wow! I have 3 of them and they have plenty(!) of bass in my room. They are single-wired. Could there be something amiss with your bi-wiring?
Yes, sounds like an issue with the biamping setup. Boris, could you explain how that is set up?
I had Studio 100 V3s. With those, weak bass was not an issue, and I think that's true with the Paradigm line in general. I agree with all of the above posts. Something must be set wrong. In addition to the above ideas....Have you checked to make sure the speaker wires are in the correct phase? Does the receiver have a crossover setting? If so, where is that set? Are the settings on the receiver such that it's sending the lows to the subwoofer output even though there's no subwoofer? And as Bob Reynolds asked, how is the biamping set up?
Check that your receiver setup is correct for subwoofer not present. Agree with previous posts as setup problems
in a word, not enough CURRENT !!
Bi-Amped with a Pioneer Receiver? I doubt that. I guess you could use the A/B speaker outputs simultaneously but... I dont think that is equivalent to bi-amping.
I agree with Bob Reynolds... How did you accomplish this?
Mboldda1 wrote "in a word, not enough CURRENT !!"
In a word, nonsense. ;-)
Thanks all for the responses.
Pioneer elites give the option of using the two rear surround channels as bi-amped fronts. (7.1 becomes 5.1). This is menu driven and I have set the receiver to do this properly.
I ran 2 lead (1 left, 1 right). Each lead contains 4x 14 awg conductors. I removed the links on the binding post and connected on pair of conductor to the upper posts and the second pair to the lower posts. I have rechecked the wiring and all is fine including the phase.
I read the manual and although the speakers were set to "Large", the crossover point was set at 80hz. I lowered it to the lowest setting, 50hz. Slight improvement, but nothing to write home about.
Any other ideas?
Thanks for your help!!!
Go into the expert mode(menu setup) and select bass level - increase the bass until the volume of bass is at listening levels you are comfortablewith (mine went to about 50hz) - Hope this helps - thymanst
That's a really neat feature of your receiver. I guess I'd continue troubleshooting the problem.
Place the biwire links back on the speakers and hook up only the "true" left and right channels. Using an SPL meter and a test tone CD (like Stereophile Test CD #3), see how low the speaker can go.
Repeat the experiment with the other set of speaker wires (other channels - 6 and 7).
This will tell you whether the receiver is high-passing any of the channels. If channels 6 and 7 are being high-passed, then you don't want them driving the woofer speaker connection. - connect them to the treble connection.
Okay if you were able to lower to extension then you have it configured with a sub. Change receiver settings to no sub.
Is there a setting on the Pioneer for "subwoofer present" or "subwoofer absent?" If so, then if set to "subwoofer present," it may be shunting all frequencies below 50 hertz to the subwoofer output, which has nothing connected to it. Also, why is there a crossover in operation at ALL if you're not running a subwoofer? Have you tried disengaging the crossover altogether? Maybe whenever the crossover's engaged, the unit is set (by the factory, as a default) to operate as though a subwoofer were in place, and shunting the 20-50 hertz to that output.
Again thanks for the suggestions.
Last night I tried to connect an analog input rather than the digital coming in from the DVD/CD player. I connected my ipod through the aux input and put on a track with a huge bass boost. Wow, something actually works. Not the greatest bass but I'm getting there.
Additionally, I tried to run the auto room analysis (according to reviews, it actually sets up the speakers properly) and the 50hz eq band sets for -6db. I'm going to try an manually adjust the setting and boost the low end.
Oh, when running setup, the receiver does note that I only have left and right channels connected. But it still appears that the crossover is always on and clipping at 50hz.
BTW, how do you enter "expert mode".
"Oh, when running setup, the receiver does note that I only have left and right channels connected. But it still appears that the crossover is always on and clipping at 50hz."
If that turned out to be true, as an owner of that receiver, I'd be really upset. Perhaps a phone call to the Pioneer product support center is in order to determine whether they've really incorporated such a "mandatory clipping" feature into its design, and if so, whether it can be disengaged, and if not, then why the hell not?
I agree with Bob_R that is a really great feature and the first I have heard of it!
If you are getting highs and mids, try unhooking the upper cable at the speakers and listen. Is there bass? How does it sound? Like its rolled off at the lower octaves or smooth just weak?If there's no bass at all somethings amiss.
Try hooking the upper cable to the lower inputs at the speaker. You know there's a signal for the highs. If still no bass its the speaker or internals. If you get bass with the swap when you didnt before) then its the Amp or maybe the cable itself thats to blame.
Be very careful with the exposed and loose speaker end conections! You surely dont want a short! I usually have a few pieces of masking tap around to stick on them just in case.
I've had a pair of Studio 60 v.2's for the past 4 years and low bass was never a problem. You have two issues to deal with: 1) Replace you Pioneer "Elite" with some real quality amplification like Musical Fidelity (which I have) or Anthem (which is associated w/Paradigm). 2) Try bi-wiring with quality (but not necessarily expensive) speaker cable. You should notice a difference in bass clarity and depth.
So do you have it working yet?
Do you have Expert Set Up in your receiver? If you do, let's go to the Bass Peak Level function and adjust your dB- I've increased mine to -40.0 which sounds adequately for my room. Try this and see if it helps. Good Luck