Wayne, stick with the 10's until you can afford something from the signature series with the berrylium tweeters, like the s2 |
Aaronknock, There is a pair of pair of focal 806v's for sale locally for $500. I do have a nice sub that I am currently using. Do you think I should but the focal 806v's?
Kzhtoo, those dynaudio 140's look nice too! I like dynaudio quite a bit. Something also to consider.
Thanks for the input guys. It's funny, all of a sudden my paradigms have started to sound a little bright / harsh / shrill, whatever. The power of suggestion, or just someone else pointing out things that maybe I wasn't really tuned into? Anyways, seems to have been changing daily lately, but I think I am getting the itch to try something more laid back and less revealing. It would be nice if I could just spend $500-$600 at first, then I wouldn't have to part with the studio 20's right away... |
Tmsorosk, you have $2500 speaker cable for a pair of $1500 (msrp) speakers!?! Ouch!
Anyhow, thanks for the advice guys, and confirming some slight suspensions that I had about the studio 60's vs. the studio 20's.
I'm starting to think my $650 would be better spent on cullen power cords, some gik room acoustics, and some speaker and equipment stands. |
Anyone else have any thoughts on this matter before this thread dies off? Thanks again!! |
I did go and listen to both speakers lastnight side by side. We were using the same exact set-up for each as we had to disconnect one pair and using the same speaker cable, connect it to the other pair. The studio 60's had way more bass. It was in a large room and the difference was not subtle at all. Im going to go ahead and get the 60's in a week and I'll report back once I've listened to them for awhile in my own rig. I did have the studio 10's before the 20's so I'm familiar with the strenghts of the 20's over the 10's. Im just hoping that at high volumes the 60's don't "collapse" under high volumes like Kz suggested. Anyways, like I said, I'll report back once I get them! Thanks! |
Sthomas, Dang you, makin me question myself again...
Have you owned both the studio 20's and studio 60's (both v.5)? If so please tell me what your thoughts are. I guess I could try selling my 20's used for $900 and put $600 with it and buy something used for $1500... |
Just going to sit tight until I can do a definite upgrade. Bought some decent stands yesterday for $20, drilled holes and put spikes (which my local stereo shop was nice enough to give me for free) in the bottom of the stands and I'm gonna call it good for awhile. i've been auditioning speaker cables from clear day (double shotguns), signal cable (silver resolution), and now tara labs (rsc prime 500) and found that the tara labs take just the right amount of harshness out of my system without losing out on the highs. Between my amp (classe ca-150), pre amp (classe ssp 25), speaker cables and speakers my system had gotten to be too revealing and a bit shrill / bright. The tara labs calmed it down in the way I was looking for.
Aaronknock, I agree with most of what you said in your post. Thanks for your help! You had asked about my speaker placement: My room is roughly 11x13, my speakers are close to 3 1/2 feet from the back wall, 2 feet from the sides, my sub is dead center and I sit about 2 feet from the back wall. I feel that this is a good set-up!
Again, thanks everyone for your help! |
So much for sitting tight for awhile, I picked up the studio 60's lastnight. Once I get them broken in and do some listening I'll give my oppinion about them but my initial impressions are that they may be weaker than the 20's in the mids but have more bottom end and they sure are nice looking. |
Okay, so after listening to the 60's for awhile, they throw a little wider soundstage and definately a taller soundstage. When running them full range they don't play as quite as loud as the 20's but they have gobs more low end. For quite listening, I run them full range, no sub, and when I want to rock the house I cross them over at 80hz and run my sub. Overall, they work slightly better for me. I paid $500 for the "upgrade" from the 20's to the 60's. I justify the cost (because it helps me sleep better) because stands would cost $200, I would have hadto spend $125 on the 20's for longer speaker cable, and the 60's have $400 higher resale value than the 20's (I figure $800 for the 20's, $1300 for the 60's, just guessing here), oh and the 60's look really nice; really nice! So would I do it again? Probably, because now I have 60's and no money, if I did it the other way, I would have a bigger belly from eating out with my girl. 6 and 1/2 dozen, the other really. All in all, I'm happy, she's happy (not about the speakers, but because she got to go to the nutcracker) and all is well! |
So I thought that I'd report back now that I lived with the 60's for awhile. I likes the 60's because they threw a wider and taller soundstage and had more bass. The more bass was nulified because they still need a sub so that was a wash. The slightly taller and wider soundstage wasn't enough for me because the mids weren't as strong as the 20's. Like everyone was saying, the 60's do totally fall apart at higher volumes, which I couldn't deal with any longer, so I traded my 60's back for some 20's and a cc490. I got the piano black 20's, which is my favorite finish for these speakers and a cc490. I have no amp yet for my cc490 so I guess I will just have to buy another classe ca-150 and when not using it for center channel duties, run my amps bridged to my 20's; oh darn! So anyways, you live and you learn. Final analysis for me, the 20's do it for me simply because the 7" vs the 5 1/2" mid. Whoever thought an 1 1/2" would make such a difference in overall performance!?! ;-) |
Ahhh, so happy to have the 20's back :-)
It's like an old pair of jeans that fits just right! |
Hi Wayne! Even crossing them over at 100hz, the 20's will play louder and stay more composed at high volumes, other than that, I felt the 10's and 20's sounded almost identical... I think they are beautiful speakers to look at (piano black being my favorite, followed by rosenut). |
