Have you considered the "ribbons" like Newform Research, VMPS, Wisdom, Genesis and Transmission Audio? Maybe an old pair of Carver Amazings. Some are dipolar.
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Eminent Technology should not be overlooked, VMPS, NewForm Research, Innersound Eros used can be had for a good price, I own VMPS, Innersound, Magnepan, the VMPS I own has the Bohlender Graebener Planar Ribbons in them, again call Bruce Thigpen at Eminent Technology....great guy and a great product that I never owned but came close and did a lengthy audition of.
Eminent Technology comes to mind as a possible Maggie alternative, using push-pull rather than single-ended topology as I recall.
I think that Beveridge and Janszen are back in production, under the direction of Harold's son and Arthur's son, respectively.
Gilmore Audio makes a couple of ribbon/dipole woofer hybrids that are can play very loud.
In my opinion, the Maggie 3.6 is real hard to beat in its price range.
thank you gentlemen for your suggestions. i tend to favor full range panel speakers. thanks again Bob Reynolds. i spoke to roger sanders today and he is sending me his stereo version of his solid state design especially suitable for magnepans and electrostatic speakers.
i am a bit skeptical, as i generally prefer the sound of tubes. i will use a passive pre to avoid sending a dc signal. we'll see how it sounds.
Did you by any chance you get a pair of new panel speakers, if so, can you pls say which brand and how it is working out.
I have been a Magnepan listener for 25 years and hoping to find something else. I have managed to order a pair of Amphityron from Analysis Audio and hopefully will add an extra pair of bass panels.
i almost bought one of the models from analysis audio but didn't because of distribution issues. at this point i will probably wait to hear the martin logan clx, the replacement for the cls 2z. expected release date is early 2008.
i also was tempted to purchase quad els, but have not so far.
Mrtennis, I have owned Apogees for the past 15 years (Slant 6s, Studio Grands) and was very satisfied until listening to a pair of Ambience Reference 1600 ribbon hybrids ($12,900) last year. They are 96 db efficient, easy to drive, and can play very loudly for those special occasions (much louder than electrostats auditioned) and are a true dipole so soundstaging is huge. They have a forward, clean, very detailed sound that I simply could not find with cone speakers even in the $30,000+ range and are a nice match with tube gear. The biggest problem is that they are made in Australia and there is not a large dealer network here in the States; it took 4 weeks to receive mine. Definitely worth checking out.
i have two panel speakers on my short list:
the analaysis audio epsilon and the podium from england.
i am going to ces next month and will listen to both of them. i am not thrilled with the price of the analysis audio speakers, namely 13200.
i will be able to get a 45 percent reviewer's accomodation discount if buying the analysis audio speaker but it is an expensive purchase. the podium speaker is $7900 and therefore would cost much less. we'll see.
if neither pans out, there is a full range martin logan speaker on the horizon, the clx, expected introduction, june to december of 2008.
one of the reasons i am lookin for another speaker is the treble response of the 1.6. the 3.6 ribbon tweeter is more revealing than the quasi ribbon tweeter of the 1.6 .
i have heard the 3.6 speaker at dealer's and at ces.
i have heard it driven with audio research amps. the speaker is too revealing for my taste. i prefer an apogee-like presentation. a friend has the apogee duetta signature driven by a cj mv 125 amp.
i will be able to get a 45 percent reviewer's accomodation discount if buying the analysis audio speaker but it is an expensive purchase
How would you feel about writing a review in this case?
Upon reading this perhaps another manufacturer may up the ante and give you a 50% discount on a similar priced speaker....those Soundlabs are really good but they ain't cheap!
I like the way you play MrTennis ...the ball is in their court. Advantage MrTennis!
i'm a straight shooter. very often i write the review and then buy the component. many times i buy a component with the understanding that i won't write a review.
if you read my reviews you will notice that many of the components i have reviewed, i don't own. also some of the components i do own i have not reviewed.
since i am unbiased in my reviews i could very well criticize a component even if i own it. in the case of the speaker, if i bought it, i would not review it.
One of our members, at the Apogee speaker users forum bought a pair of "Analaysis audio Epsilon"...he likes them.
He gave us his early impressions here: