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I was looking at one of my highend mags the other day. And looking at the spec's of some speakers and find it hard to believe the outragous prices. I mean does it really get that much better at 10k, 15k, 30k and up. I've listened to speakers in the 25k range and was not impressed at all. I've been also looking at subs and some of them in the 1,500 and up catagory were paper treated, I always thought woven carbon fiber or poly was used for the top notch and whats with a class G amp in that sub when you spend 3k or better. Let's take power cords at 1k, I audioned one at home and took it a part, I can buy the same material under $100. I cannot really comment to much on amps, but some of the nicer ones above 3k have less parts, to me that means it took less time to build. Tweaks are another one I won't go into. Sometimes you just feel overwelmed. I was just wondering if anyone else gets a bit raddled about this. I know they have to make money, but lets be real. Just a bit bored today, so I thought I'd start a new thread. Don't get me wrong, I still have a few more pieces to add.......
Pete
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sean
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Components with LESS circuitry in them are actually harder to build. This is especially true of amplifiers. Since the manufacturer has NO idea of what type of load ( speaker cables and speakers ) that the amp will be used with, he has to worry about stability, reliability, etc.. Building a very simple circuit that can deal with all of this is extremely tough and actually takes MORE time than using all of the gimmickry like feedback, etc...

As to the comments about wires, etc... I agree wholeheartedly. Why do you think that many reviewers refer to them as "wire bandits" ??? Then again, some of these specialty cables DO require tons and tons of hand labor that is quite time consuming. While it might not be worth hundreds of dollars per hour to you or me, someone WILL pay that much for it. It's the law of supply and demand. Demand something expensive and exotic and someone will supply it. At great cost of course.... : ) Sean
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sean
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I've never heard a Pass designed amp that had "killer bass". Nonetheless, most of them sound phenomenal from about 200 - 300 Hz and up. Soft yet still fully articulate and loaded with detail. Combine this wih "air", a deep and wide soundstage and overall sonic beauty and you have the trademarks of Nelsons' handiwork. If your not into "slam", you owe it to yourself to check these out. Sean
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sean
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Pbb, you state "do you really know much about them until you have lived with them?"

If you're going to start arguments here, PLEASE don't make it so easy to refute them using your own words.
This statement alone contradicts ALL of the antagonistic remarks that you made regarding differences in equipment and the need for double blind testing. As you've plainly made clear and acknowledged, some differences and how things react are quite subtle and can not be detected initially. It takes time to get to know someone or how something ( in this case, a piece of gear) actually works. While every person and audio component has "surface characteristics" that may be easy to ascertain, learning the intricate details takes time to become familiar with their multi-faceted personalities. Anybody that thinks that they can discern such differences and easily categorize them at the drop of a hat is either extremely well trained in that area or Superman.

As to your assertion that we should be enjoying the music for what it is and not fret so much about how it is reproduced, i agree to a point. Good music is enjoyable anywhere, much like good food and good company. It's just that sometimes any event can be made even better. Knowing how to do that and having the experience to heighten the experience can only improve things for all involved. Why settle for less when you have the means to do better and experience even greater amounts of pleasure ? Sean
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