Our Responsibility


As my music system competes with fireworks in the background (4th of July, after 9 pm) I’ve been reflecting on John Darko’s recent post (linked below). Specifically this section:

"Being a hi-fi enthusiast isn’t about the gear we own, the music we listen to or in which format. It’s about how we listen: attentively and mindfully, to the music AND to others."

Perhaps the significance and import of this very special day in our national history has opened up a window within me, to explore this further.

I’m asking our community: What is it that we can do to share and expand our interest and hobby, and this special love of music, with others?

From Darko.Audio: https://darko.audio/2019/07/the-know-it-all-audiophile-threatens-community-expansion/
david_ten

Showing 13 responses by geoffkait

No problem, Koost. In the overall scheme of things, somebody has to be mid fi so it might as well be you. Good luck in your quest for mediocrity.
Gosh, I was wondering what all those fires 🔥 🔥 🔥 on the horizon were. They are audiophiles’ houses going up in smoke. Poor little audiophiles. Must be those audiophile fuses.
Laws are meant to be broken. That includes the laws of physics. Heck, I just broke three of them without turning around. 🤗

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. - Old audiophile axiom

pop quiz time! 🤗 We know light cannot escape a black hole. That’s why black holes appear black. But does that mean photons have mass, that the photons are prevented from radiating outward by the extreme gravity of the black hole? 
millercarbon
Our understanding of the electromagnetic force is, in fact, 100% complete.

So why then are all our electronic components imperfect?

>>>>>Actually, that’s an excellent example of someone use a long scientific term pretending to be scientific. In fact, the electromagnetic force has precious little to do with audio.

Michael Green employed a similar logical fallacy by stating there are four fundamental forces, including the electromagnetic force so, by virtue of that fact, his argument must be correct. 
kosst_amojan

@geoffkait

You sell a lot of snake oil. You make ludicrous claims about it; claims that aren’t supported by ANY kind of science. Then when you’re challenged you go off of the logical fallacy bandwagon like a flat earther. You entire post up there is a rant in support of logical fallacy winning the day. Let’s go through it point by point, shall we?

>>>Uh, I have a degree in theoretical physics, Koost. You, on the other hand, should have listened to your mother and stayed in school. 
Snake oil is the lubricant that greases the tracks for the train headed for the Promised Land. All aboard! 🚂 Toot! Toot! 
I’m not sure why the guy who writes the blog described in the OP is complaining so much about bickering in this hobby. If I can speak frankly, I’m here mostly to watch all the bickering, 🤗
Let me help you guys out a little bit.

First of all you can’t debunk something that’s not bunk. But don’t let that stop you. Here are a few tips.


• Employ vague, subjective, dismissive terms such as "ridiculous," "trivial," "crackpot," or "bunk," in a manner that purports to carry the full force of scientific authority.

• Keep your arguments as abstract and theoretical as possible. This will send the message that accepted theory overrides any actual evidence that might challenge it -- and that therefore no such evidence is worth examining.

• By every indirect means at your disposal imply that science is powerless to police itself against fraud and misperception, and that only self-appointed vigilantism can save it from itself.

• Portray science not as an open-ended process of discovery but as a pre-emptive holy war against invading hordes of quackery-spouting infidels. Since in war the ends justify the means, you may fudge, stretch or violate the scientific method, or even omit it entirely, in the name of defending it.

• Reinforce the popular fiction that our scientific knowledge is complete and finished. Do this by asserting that "if such-and-such discovery were legitimate, then surely we would already know about it!"


tablejockey
These forums should be about audio stuff, not social impact and the heady things that can go with it. This high end audio nonsense has nothing to do with the love/appreciation of music.

>>>>Huh? Are you sure about that?