Ortofon 2M Bronze vs 2M black any difference?


Hey everyone. I was wondering whats the difference between the Ortofon 2M Bronze which I have been using on the systemdek. And upgrade it to a 2M Black for my new rp8. Is there much of a difference in the two or should a guy stick to the 2M Bronze? My Preamp is a cary audio slp-98p Class A all tube phono and a cary CAD120s power amp and totem speakers. Let me know your thoughts/experiences.
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I've had both.  They are voiced very similar but the Black is worth upgrading to. 
The difference is in the stylus.  The Bronze uses a Nude Fine Line with a frequency response of 20-29K Hz and the Black uses a nude Shibata with a response up 31K Hz.  Other than this, every other spec the same.

Whether you can hear a difference would be up to you.


The black has different internal wiring as well
What is your tonearm?
It has the stock arm a RB808 Tonearm, and i am getting some spacers put on too, for the arm.
For the VTA issue. But dose the 2m black have different internal wiring I thought it was only the styles was the only change.

I am not aware of any internal wiring differences,  With the exception of the stylus and extended high frequency response of the Black, all other critical specs are the same.
I replaced the Bronze with a Black
Another world. The black is way superior in every way
Alan
For the price of 2M black (shibata) you can easily find nos Stanton 980 or 981 (both with stereohedron stylus), those cartridges are way superior to modern Ortofon and most of the top vintage MMs. 

My friend replaced his 2M Red yesterday with vintage nos Stanton 881s mk2 i gave him (official Doug Sax / Sheffield Lab's studio monitoring cartridge). He said it's a huge improvement over the ortofon. 






Re: wiring

"Ridiculously good." - Michael Fremer
The 2M Black is the new moving magnet flagship from Ortofon. The 2M black is graced with a Shibata diamond stylus – the same diamond as on the acclaimed MC Jubilee. Its slim, highly polished profile allows an exceedingly wide contact area to the groove walls and ensures notably detailed reproduction throughout the spectrum, including even the most high frequency groove information. Users of the 2M Black will enjoy the benefit of impeccable sound quality, along with reduced record & stylus wear and reduced distortion and phase error as a result of the diamond’s improved tracking geometry.

The cartridge body used for the 2M Black is manufactured from a newly-developed Lexan DMX Piano Black, a revolutionary material which ensures high rigidity while eliminating unwanted resonances. The 2M Black uses a special upgraded engine, featuring split pole pins with a silver plated copper wire.
The cartridge body used for the 2M Bronze and 2M Black is manufactured from a newly-developed Noryl plastic/glass combination, a revolutionary material which ensures high rigidity while eliminating unwanted resonances. The 2M Bronze and 2M Black use a special upgraded engine, featuring split pole pins with a silver plated copper wire.
The cart body is the same as with both the Black and Bronze.  The only difference is the stylus. So yes same internal wiring. 
I have a 2M black, and would like to get a bronze stylus, trade or purchase.
Oldears, I have a bronze with around 100hrs. Let me know if you're still interested. 


I started with the 2M Red and made the jump to the Blue.  The difference between the two was quite substantial.  Then, I skipped the Bronze, and went straight to the 2M Black and was blown away, blown a w a y ..