I was wondering what the general consensus is on BR lasting. I have been thinking of finally going the HD route but even after HDDVD's demise I still don't know if going with BR is the right call. Seems to me the average consumer is still going SD DVD and will so for quite some time(till hardware and software come down in price). With that being said, SD DVD's are still 99% of the market share. I am wondering if going with a solid upconverting DVD player such as the OPPO 980 is the smarter route at this point in time...

Any thoughts????
Do not buy into BR yet. Until the 'music' format for BR is established, the follow on to SACD, you will be wasting your money. Go oppo for now and wait. Sony inidcates it will have the first unit out in about 18 months.
Oppo has said the new 983 should come out at the end of March. If you want the best picture possible you may want to wait for this player.
Depends, If pq is your highest priority,then bd and 1080p are the ticket...
I agree. You'll always have a use for a universal player and the anti is low. In the next 12 to 18 months there'll be more and better HD alternatives that work with hi rez sampling rates. All the pieces are there, we just need some company to put it all together.

I meant the best SD picture possible.
Tiger, what's the music format you're talking about?
A lot of people are grapping the Toshiba HD-DVD players just for the upconvert capability of these units for their SD DVD collections. They are suppose to be much better than the Blu-ray players in that regard.

With the price begin at lower than $99, which is much cheaper than the Oppo, how can you go wrong? Unless the Oppo's upconvert capability is MUCH better than what the HD DVD players can do, but I doubt it.

I bet on the Blu-ray and start buying blu-ray disc at a very good price since last Nov. even though I am not going to buy a blu-ray player until summer. I did buy a Toshiba A30 last week for my 200+ SD DVD collections.
I have both a Toshiba HD-D2 and an Oppo DV-980H. For upconverting via HDMI, they're pretty equal, with *maybe* an edge going to the Toshiba. The Toshiba also manages to sound really good via the Toslink (go figure). But the sound of the Oppo still trumps it--cleaner, more involving, more dynamic, and it decodes HDCD (noticeable improvement over std. redbook), and plays DVD-A and SACD. The Oppo is a little sound monster and it will take years (if ever) before a Blu-ray machine incorporates the music-playing capabilities of the Oppo at anywhere near the price.
Thats exactly my thinking. Still a very very good picture with MUCH better sound capabilities. Seems the logical choice at this point for me..

My seating area is 12 feet back. I think a nice 780p/1080i upconverting player is the way to go.
Interesting comparison post Johnyb53--

i've had an upconverting dvd player for some time - denon dvd-5910 and am very pleased with both pq and sq on std dvd. i've even recently had hram perform mods to it and couldn't be more happy with stunning results. they do mods for oppo as well, so i imagine the oppo is worthy, albeit more affordable than the denon. i almost never use 1080i, prefer at the most 720p even w/ my front projection - screen is 92 inch. of course, i am much more of an audiophile than a videophile.
I think the audio of the new formats gets lost--in that it is superior--and some earlier players don't support true-dd dts ma even thru hdmi. They are now coming out with more players and receivers that decode these new formats.
Just as an example my Pioneer Elite '95 and Onkyo 875 receiver, sound much,much better than my 3 yr.old top of the line Marantz/Arcam---at 1/3 the price.(ea.) I guess if you haven't heard these new audio codecs;you can just assume BD is all about the picture but it ain't.

I've heard the Onkyo and was impressed by the sound,but my issue is that how many BR dvd's even have the newer codecs presently? Secondly, all new releases don't come out in BR format. Thirdly, BR is such a small part of the market presently, is it going to survive!!

Probably still to early to tell and still to early to start replacing pre/pros and spending $500 on a dvd player on a format that is still not the front runner...
how about the online DVD N...x. rental service? They already have all BR release to date in their catalog.
those with netflix and blockbuster online rentals who do BLu Ray have complained that the discs are constantly on long delays to view

the distributers are limiting # blu ray discs to rental companies - they want the consumer buying them at $25 - $30 a piece.

also the amount of material (outside blockbuster releases) is limited
Yes: I do Netflex--and did HD-dvd rentals before I switched to BD titles. Just about a year ago I could see the handwriting on the wall. For that time-frame there were more/better BD titles coming out so I went BD.
I find because I don't try to rent 10 discs a week; I always get the discs within my Q; faster than what I hear/read---in posts at avsforum.--I.E. the very titles people wait for; for I get; pronto.-- (BTW;those are the probably the same folk whom made Costco change its return policy.)
Dolby True,is becoming more commonplace. I don't own any HD- titles. as an aside; it's funny there are several exclusive/ desirable titles being released in HD-; this week.