Open-Minded or Gullible?


Since recently joining this discussion group I have learned a few interesting things, reevaluated some of my opinions (biwireing), and marveled at a most astonishing collection of quasi-scientific mumbo jumbo. (Sorry about that).

Because I really would like to pick up some useful information, I need to have a feel for the degree of credibility to be given to comments made here. Should I really run out and spend $2000 on speaker cables because someone says they sound good?

I have suggested that we all have a limit to what we think might be true, or at least worth a try. Some, like me, are conservative: for example I believe that loudspeakers and phono pickups improve with initial use, but not wires. Others are more open-minded/gullible (you pick the word). I made an attempt to determine how "far out" the Audiogon opinion spectrum extends by asking a question that I thought would be near the limit.
"Do you think that reversing the direction of a cartridge fuse can affect sound quality?" Apparently not far enough!

8 of 17 people who responded to this question (some made other comments) think that reversing a fuse would (or could) make a difference.

What question should I ask next. Do granite shelves of equipment racks need breakin? I already know that some say yes. Does the air in the listening room need breakin? I don't dare ask. Instead why not have you guys tell me (us) where you draw the line, with a few examples near that line which you accept and reject.

Please no one take offense. I don't care what you choose to believe, and you ought to be proud to state your position.
eldartford

Showing 11 responses by jax2

Lugnut - I'm still seaking out a supplier for solid maple broom handles. Patent is pending.

Gunbei - I got yer' tweaks right here buddy!! Photo biz is still pretty slow up here in the Pacific Northwet. How's LA treating the commercial design community?

Marco
Wstritt - That's the beauty of these babies, you don't need no stinkin' 'lectricity! Just some baked beans, dried fruit, and your favorite carbonated beveredge and you will not believe how those cheeks will vibrate! Those Radio Shack sound level meters don't even go that low (though down in that range everything is pretty loose...as advertised, it'll stay tight down to 35hz, but watch out when they get down below that...things get messy). When I was doing some testing I actually melted my sound meter, but that's not a pretty story! You won't make any new friends using these wonders, but, hey, it's a lonely hobby as we all know.

Marco
Best advice is to make your own judgement by direct experience in your system, in your space, with your ears and your music (as Flex suggests).

Here are some humorous links for y'all on this subject:

Ultimate Power Supply for Sale on Audiogon This one ends soon so the link is only good for a limited time.

The Ultimate Tweak I wrote this one to blow off steam on the same subject matter. A bit lude so don't read it if you're not flexible in that regard. You have been warned.

Marco
Wstritt- Go for the maple, it may take a bit of extra time sanding and a bit more vaseline, but the sonic results will be worth the extra effort. Oh, and if you'll check out my response to the thread you started here you'll see that using this tweak led to yet another discovery which I'll be advertising soon in Stereophile!

Marco
Glad folks enjoy the humor in the Ultimate Tweak. Thanks for the compliment Rlxl. Wish I had the disipline to write more since I always enjoy it when I do. Do check out my response to the iPod thread...I think you might enjoy that too if you liked the Ultimate Tweak. I'm still laughing at Slappy's revelation! Hey slappy did you try putting some vaseline on that Boba-Fett action figure and attaching him to the end of a broomstick on a maple stand and see what happens! A bit of epoxy ought to do it!

Tom, on a more serious note; I enjoyed your post. I don't know if being sucessful and smart makes one immune to the Power of Cheese as it were. Advertising thrives on smart successful people and I'd guess the majority of Audiophiles (rather the audio buying public at large) are not on this list and do not educate themselves as well as they could. When it comes down to it, oh so many people don't trust their own judgement when they think others know better. But I agree with you completely in that your own ears are the best judge and it doesn't matter what's producing the sound as long as it works for you. I think being gullible is not necessarily foiled by being smart or successful. There are plenty of mediochre products that survive out there, and plenty of examples of $2000 power cords made with $120 of materials and driven by tens of thousands in advertising and hype. Those companies seem to be surviving and thriving as well. Furthermore I've known many people, especially those with a whole lot of money, who are all too willing to purshase items (with very minimal knowledge and questionable guideance) solely to put on display the depth of their pockets and their good taste (again, don't know that many are on this list, but I'm sure there are some). It's the American Way after all...Keep up with the Jones's...well actually it is more realisticly "Show-up" the Jones's!

PS I need to order some more of that special Hamster feed you make for the amp you sold me. I'm running out and those little guys are burning it off real quick! I just got paid, so I'm going to take the Deluxe TWL Hamster Feed this time!

Marco
Gunbei - yeah, right of center stage, if she is facing you, IS her left nostril. Your cables are fine!

Marco
4yanx- If you liked The Ultimate Tweak, you will want to consider my new product line which is quickly gathering steam. Read about it in this thread. Make sure to scroll down the thread and read all my posts to learn about the entire product line! It is soon to be a Stereophile Class A Reference, I guarantee it! Meanwhile I'll give that KY Heated stuff a try tonight! Thanks for the HOT TIP!

Marco
Thanks Viggen....what a nice thought....but I was thinking; I'd kinda like to be thought of as the one who put the "anal" in analogue!

Marco
Hey Viggen & 4yanx - you've given me a great idea for a name for my invention. I'm re-submitting the papers to the patent office today. I'm going to call it "The Rectal Fire". What do you guys think?

Marco
Gunbei - Bet you had a great set of racing stripes after that cab ride! Damn, I think this is more than most folks really need to know! But who am I to talk!!!

I'll go for the TM simply because I don't know the keystroke shortcut on my Mac to produce the little 'R' with the circle around it! Thanks for keeping me out of court!

Marco
Viggen - Great idea..everyone knows; "The family that splays together, stays together!!"

Gunbei - Thanks for the stroke-tips. Got G5? Did you get to see that movie that was online for a short while called "Petie's First Mac"? Allegedly it was done by a teenager and his mom with a video camera. The kid has his own site, but the film is not on it now. I'd bet Apple bought it from him. Madison Avenue could not have done it any better. The kid's so chipper and excited about getting his first mac, and his facial expressions are just so comic,... you just wanna slap him. Keep an eye out for it and download it if it comes up again (big file...something around 64mb if I recall).

Marco