Tweakerman, to find that thread just go to the bottom of the Audiophile forums page and put Jadis into the first box in the search engine, it shows up as one of the first 5 threads (Jadis Fidelity). The Jadis name is pretty well known in audiophile circles, but it is difficult to audition because the importer only has a few dealers, preferring to rely on audiophiles' word of mouth and Jadis' reputation. Audio Matiere and Audio Aero are less well-known, but their designer was with Jadis originally, and the Audio Aero Capitole CD player may help raise that company's visibility. They are special electronics, though certainly not everyone's cup of tea--for example, Plato has heard my system and has always noted (quite correctly) that the Jadis electronics do not have as much high frequency extension as he has heard from other top components and as he likes. I still feel they rule the midrange, though, down close to 40 hz, where they start to run out of the power and control you can get from other designs.