Oh how I wish Class D amps ...


I sure wish manufacturers and designers would move forward as quickly as is possible on improving the current status of Class D amps ... I have heard them all, some in my own system, and they have SO mcu promise !!! Unfortunately they just do not have it down yet. They still sound dry, unmusical, and strange in the treble ... kind of chalky and rolled off, and definitely lacking air.
I long for the day I can get rid of my hundred pound Class AB monster amp, for a nice small cool running amp that sounds just as good. I am worried though that designers and manufacturers have accepted the " It sounds good enough" opinion, and that the B&O Ice power may be a long time before it is "fixed"... sigh.
Just my rant ...
timtim

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Ok guys ... I overstated when I said " I have heard them all " ... I should have said I have heard MOST of them. I find they all sound slightly different, but seem to still share the basic traits I described to one degree or another.

I have not heard the Devialet yet, but have heard the Cherry Plus in a friend's system, and it sounded good until he switched back in his own Class AB amp, and the Cherry's shortcomings were immediately highlighted.

I should also clarify that many of the Class D amps probably DO sound as good as many Class AB amps ... What I am looking for is for a Class D amp that can sound as good as amps such as the McCormacks, Claytons, Electrocompaniet, etc ...

And lastly to Frogman : The "promise" I speak of, is the promise of small size, efficiency, power, etc ..
Thanks Rhljazz ... I actually had the WFS 1000 in my system for a month, and it was a good sounding amp, but not even close to what my mcCormack offers.

I really, really want to go digital, badly ... I just do not want to go backwards in sound quality. My thread is not trolling, or trying to stir up any trouble. I just wanted to see what others feel about my thoughts and impressions. Thank you for your thoughts !
I can't switch speakers, as I have NO doubts it would be a downgrade, regardless the price or brand. Owning a pair of Vapor Cirrus is the ultimate experience ;-)
Summitav : RAAL OEM ribbons are simply the best high frequency transudcers on the planet IMO. They are the epitomy pf perfect highs.
Audiofreakgeek : I was loaned a Nuforce Reference 9 V3SE to audition, and found it rather dull in my system. Definitely a lack of air and extended highs. JMO
Well ... I guess I am wrong for assuming, but I do assume that EVERYTHING is always subject to system synergy. Having said that, the Cirrus speakers are the single best tool I have ever seen for component and wire evaluation. They are an open window, and PERFECTLY show every slightest change made upstream. So I am fortunate to have a system that does allow for very good evaluation.

I have no adgenda to bash digital amps, just a desire to see them improve.
Devialet must have the worst website and online infor I have ever seen. I tried looking into it, and can't even find power ratings, pricing, or anything else for that matter LOL.
Ya know ... as an interesting note to this ... If you look at MOST of the websites of the digital amp manufacturers, you will see where they boldly offer claims saying their particular amps offer more high end air and sweeter and extended highs than other digital amp offerings ... This alone is enough to hint that there are aknowledged issues with digital amps sound quality. You can find this type of claim on Cheery's, Hypex, W4S, and Nuforce just to name a few.

There own admission of this has to be taken as a concern, or they would never have even brought it up ;-)
Jazzcourier ... My McCormack DNA-500 just destroyed the best from Wyred I had sitting here in my system ... Not even close... at all ;-)
Foster_9 .... I appreciate the love LOL. Of course this is the world of high end audio we are discussing, and many are quick to get upset if their apple cart is tipped slightly.
Regardless of what anyone may think, I truly have NO adgenda to bash Class D ... and I will promise this : The day I hear a Class D amp that matches the sonics of the better Class A A/B amps ... I will buy it on the spot.
I would love to downsize, but I won't downgrade ;-)