NOS Western Electric wire used for power cables??

I have been a user of Ben's power cords for some time now. I am a distributor and the customers I have sold these cords to have replaced $7000 power cords from the likes of Argento and Verastarr, among others. EVERY person I have sold a power cord to has replaced the cords in their entire system with the Mojo Audio cords. That should say something in testament both to the build quality of these cords and to the performance.

Ben doesn't reinvent the wheel with his power cords. Like everything audio, the simpler the design, the better it sounds. Just because he is using a vintage wire does not make it out dated. Let's face it, Western Electric INVENTED all of the math and terminology involved in audio. All of that math is still involved today. They knew what they were doing when they designed this wire.

Given that the wire is still around after 50 years and there aren't reports of fire, I have NO idea what you guys are worried about. One would think that a wire, designed specifically for power, would have some kind of warning along with it after 50 years of use around the world.

Arguments will fly forever about anything. But ultimately the proof is in the listening. If these cables weren't what we say they were then Mojo Audio wouldn't be building the reputation that it is building.

I work in film and on a set I have burned out an extension cord. It got hot and cooked itself, but it did not catch fire. It was a 100' cable and was drawing FAR more current than any piece of audio equipment will ever be able to draw. As Ben stated, a cable will cook itself if it's not rated high enough for the amount of current being drawn through it. These power cables will never face that issue.

I personally don't like listening to an audio system unless there's at least a slight chance it'll burst into flames at some point during the listening session.

The Extension cord was a standard home depot-style extension cord of large gauge size. It just couldn't take the light's current draw. Bare in mind the lights we use are 3k to 10k lights, which draw a constant 10,000 watts... so they're not quite the common 40w household light bulb. But let's be serious... if bricks can catch on fire, then if ANY power cord gets hot enough, regardless of the UL rating it will catch fire. The Extension cord got quite hot to the touch, but it didn't catch fire. It blew the circuit first. And to repeat... we're talking a much higher current draw than any piece of audio/video equipment.

I second Sherod's comment, I NEVER see any high-end cables with UL ratings. Nor is it a common occurrence that cables catch fire or I guarantee there'd be some threads about it.

Also... no lighting the cord on fire yourself... buncha scoundrels...

Boom goes the dynamite. Simply Q, it is obvious to me that you are bashing a product and an honest businessman for the sheer purpose of bashing him.

Is it not obvious that everyone else who has posted on this thread absolutely drools over Ben's products? Not a single bad thing has been said about Ben or is products by those who are actually using them in their systems.

Ben's communication is golden, I know of no other manufacturer on the market who will take as much time to respond to emails or forum threads. He is passionate about what he is making and because of that his equipment's performance is beyond measure.

In the scheme of things, his products are new and so it is not surprising that he is offering upgrades relatively often. Beyond that, he offers many of the upgrades for free. Unlike most companies that offer a 50% trade in policy, Ben is confident enough in his products to offer the upgrades at his own personal cost. That in and of itself is deserving of ridicule in business terms. But it should tell you that he is not trying to cheat people out of their money.

So I suggest that those of you who continue to bash Ben and these products put your money where your mouth is. Ben has been more than generous with his offers.

This would be so much more entertaining if it were translated into Pirate.

I have to chime in again.

Miguel is WORKING on patents for his products, they haven't gone through yet. Once they go through he will be displaying all of his technology for the world to see. Be fair.

I have heard Miguel's Spartan and Troy products in his personal system. They are quite good. I wouldn't purchase them myself, but I also have 3 Topaz isolation transformers. Two of which lower the noise floor by 136dB and the third by 146dB. I have heard MANY high-end conditioners and not one comes close to the neutrality or sheer effectiveness of the Topaz. I have brought them over to quite a few houses (Ben, RX8MAN, and Agear included) and not one time did I leave them disappointed in the performance. Quite the opposite.

Next... magnets.
Cables of all kinds, and anything that has any sort of current through it creates a magnetic field. What you may not be taking into account is that when magnets are added together their magnetic field DECREASES. By adding magnets to cabling and various other products you are effectively decreasing the magnetic field around the conductor. The pulsing of the magnetic field increases resistance in the conductor. By minimizing this magnetic field and lowering resistance you have less distortion.

Let's also cut the crap here, Simply. Grounding systems DO make a difference. WHY they make a difference isn't quite what we're talking about here. The fact that Miguel has sold quite a few Troy units (an owner of which now owns 3 Mojo audio power cords AND is looking for an isolation TX) should attest to the fact that it is worth $12k in enough systems for him to be able to sell it. It seems to me that you are taking every point that someone makes and telling them why they are wrong. Interestingly enough, every point that has been made on this thread is a topic that has made not only a difference, but the SAME difference in every single system I've heard it in.

Well now that we've all seen the worst side of what forums can do... let's eat cake and move on. Cats can come too.

There are always going to be clashing personalities and differences of opinion. It could be in audio, it could be in a bank. It is FAR too easy to misunderstand when reading text and especially when dealing with people on the internet. Ultimately, they're just words and are only sharp-edged when the receiver of those words lets them be.

So I suggest we let this discussion die or be deleted and move on from lessons learned. I imagine no one will lose sleep over staying in the gray area.

As Confucius once said... "Man who goes to bed with itchy butt, wakes up with stinky finger." --I have no idea what that had to do with anything. But there you go.

//conversation over.