If you buy the speakers from a non authorized dealer, Martin Logan may not honor the warranty. I would definitely check the fine print before doing anything.
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I agree that there should be/is a mark up for a brick and mortar store. A difference of 5-10% is one thing, but 35% is not in the budget. The speakers I went to listen to were demos and in the budget. I wandered over to these out of curiosity and liked them. They were out of the budget, so I looked for used (which is how I purchase most of my stereo equipment). I would not mind waiting until the dealer wants to sell his demos (I already asked about that).
I am finding them available at 35% discount by non-authorized dealers.Just curious, where does a non authorized Martin Logan dealer get his speakers from? Obviously not from Martin Logan.
Are you sure you are actually buying Martin Logan made speakers?
Do the math.
Martin Logan sells the speakers to his authorized dealers for 60% of MSRP. plus shipping.
That leaves 40% minus the non authorized dealers 35% discount. WOW, the non authorized dealer is now working with 5%. Does that make sense to you.
Non-authorized dealer = No warranty
Thank you for purchasing a MartinLogan product. All MartinLogan products meeting the conditions set forth here are eligible to receive the Limited Warranty. Please retain your sales receipt for proof of warranty terms and proof of purchase from an authorized MartinLogan dealer or distributor in the United States or Canada.
There is no way in hell the dealer the OP is thinking of buying from, can discount a pair of Martin Logan Impression 11A speakers for 35% below MSRP and still make any money. At tops the guy has 5% left to work with. Even if the guy doesn't have any overhead to speak of how much of the $500 left will he pocket for his time?
If it sounds to good to be true, .....
I was a Martin Logan dealer for many years. I will not get into specifics on pricing, but the final price to the dealer depends on:
1. Quantity of speakers ordered on the order
2. If bought right, freight is included, (usually based on total dealer cost of order or number of pairs of speakers)
3. If paid within terms, more discount is given
A 35% discount would still give the seller a pretty decent margin if all the criteria is meet.
I will also restate that Martin Logan will NOT honor warranty for non-authorized sales.
In addition, most "demos" from dealers will be around 15%-25% off of retail, unless it's an older/discontinued model or the dealer is no longer a dealer and just wants to dump the gear.
define decent after cost of $ since you infer they paid up front to get max discount......First of all, I did not "infer" that they paid up front. I said if they pay "within terms". Since, apparently you don’t know what that means, (even though you worked at three stores), I will explain.
Most companies have a NET 30 invoice. Which means you have 30 days to pay the invoice in full, but most offer "terms" which if paid, (usually within 10, 15 or 20 days) you get the same discount if you paid up front or prepaid the order. So you don’t necessarily have to prepay for the order to get the discount. There will always be exceptions, but this is how it works for the most part.
Most of these discounts are in the 3%-8% range, (some even more, but that’s about the average).
Sorry, I should not have said decent "margin", but decent "profit". Granted the margin will be much lower than selling at full retail.
Again, I will not get into specific dollar amounts.
i ran a billion $ part of someting and yes i understand terms, i could have been more precise in my use of words for sure
but a decent brick and mortar business with any kind of service, facilities, staff and return on invested capital will imo struggle with 35% off on a flagship brand such as this
but a decent brick and mortar business with any kind of service, facilities, staff and return on invested capital will imo struggle with 35% off on a flagship brand such as thisTotally agree! However, a smaller store, (like all the ones I've owned), could make it.
Just a case in point, if I could sell one pair of the ML Impression 11A speakers per week at 35% off for the entire month, I would have enough income from just those sales to cover my lease/rent on the store, store utilities, my salary and still have some profit left. So it could be done, but yes, a larger store would definitively need more.
Also, the chance of that would be slim to none, but it would still work. :-)