Based on my very limited research, it seems that Roon does NOT support Qubuz and some question if the Roon/Qobuz integration will ever happen. I do not know.
I believe that Roon support of Qobuz is very important based on the number of Roon users. I emailed Qobuz about how are Roon users going access Qobuz. Does any have any additional info about a Roon/Qubuz integration?
@hgeifman Thank you for your research and info on the upcoming launch of Qobuz. I am happy with Roon/Tidal now but Qobuz sounds like it would have more Hi-res titles to choose from. I emailed Roon asking if they plan to integrate with Qobuz and got this response.
"Nothing I can speak to publicly at the moment, sorry! Keep an eye on our community site for updates: https://community.roonlabs.com"
Qobuz offers 4 different pricing options. They are:
Premium at 320kbps
Hi-Fi at FLAC 16-Bit/ 44.1 Khz
Sublime at CD quality streaming FLAC 16-Bit / 44.1 KHz
Sublime+ at Hi-Res quality streaming FLAC 24-Bit up to 192 KHz
Please see the link below for additional details and the pricing levels:
For example, if I purchase Qobuz Sublime, or Sublime+, I order this option on the Qobuz web site and the correct albums, etc will be presented to my music server. Most likely, I would be interested in the Sublime+ at Hi-Res quality streaming FLAC 24-Bit up to 192 KHz option so these albums will be available on my Aurender Music Server. Aurender Customer Support confirms that Aurender users will purchase the Qobuz price tier option (one of the above four) they want and the correct album format will be made available to the Aurender.
I suggest you review your music server to confirm it works with Qobuz and review how it handles the Qobuz pricing option you select.
I have requested QoBuz for any additional information about a possible Roon/Qobuz integration and am waiting for their response.
Hopefully they will run an introductory trial so we can try and compare to existing Tidal and Deezer services for ease of use, stability, selection of titles etc.
Personally I have never seen an issue with tidal interface of music selection. However I am rock all the way and I tend to search for what I want or just I use the "genres" tab for rock to see what's new.
Has worked very well for me so Quboz has its work cut out especially if $9 a month more than tidal hifi service.
I’m not surprised at all it is taking this long to announce something-what happened to Sony’s participation with MQA? What happened to hd tracks-STREAMING? Both MIA.It’s my guess these services can’t get the content (at least for what they want to pay for it) from the content owners (labels, or artists).
They should just bring back good old FM radio. Get local control of stations back in the hands of, well. locals. Break up the monopoly hold of corporate radio and have stations dedicated to certain musical genres again.
I remember when L.A. had three classical radio stations and just as many jazz stations (maybe two?). Also, I'm told those old TV towers can easily broadcast internet with minor modifications. All it would take is some enterprising politician(s) to get involved and have at least internet radio beamed across our cities.
With minimal advertising and some government underwriting, we can have access to music from around the world for everyone to hear. I grew up on free radio and to pay for it over the internet leaves me scratching my balding head.
All the best,
From the Sound and Vision article, it looks like the hi-res streaming option will be $249 per year, which should give Tidal a good "run for the money". It also looks like they'll have Roon integration worked into the product by the end of the year. All good!
From what some of my European friends tell me, Qobuz is pretty strong with their classical and jazz libraries.
Qobuz has traditionally focused more on classical and jazz genres, and French artists – and even today the experience is still not quite the pop-heavy one you get from Spotify, Tidal or Apple Music.
There’s a more agreeable balance now, though, with pop and rock living in harmony next to other genres – and that refreshing eclecticism stands Qobuz apart from its more mainstream rivals.https://www.whathifi.com/qobuz/review
“There’s a more agreeable balance now, though, with pop and rock living in harmony next to other genres – and that refreshing eclecticism stands Qobuz apart from its more mainstream rivals“.
Let’s hope this holds true....I have been looking forward to a balanced catalog versus Tidal catalog that is now so rap and pop heavy. Not to mention, handful of MQA albums that are just awful. I don’t get the selection criteria for the some of the MQA remasters 😳
I do see an option for Qobuz high resolution streaming now in my Aurender Conductor app but subscription is still not open to US residents. My guess it will be shortly after Qobuz launch at RMAF on Friday.
I've been using Qobuz for about 5 years, and Qobuz Sublime+ since it started about 2 years ago.
It does not look to compete with Spotify or Tidal. Why would you try and compete with companies that burn money and make huge losses?
It has been classical and jazz heavy because those listeners tend to be the ones more likely to spend money on a premium subscription and downloads. I read that they get at least 5 times the revenue per customer as anyone else.
About 50% of their revenues are from downloads, so more labels sign up as they make more money on them and that gets them the more expensive Sublime subscriptions, because that gives you big discounts on HD downloads. So the Sublime subscription works two ways - for those who want to stream in HD (which includes an offline library) and those who want downloads at the same or less than 16/44 prices.
The USA will be getting a mature product with a stunning catalogue, quality control, great editorial, album and artist articles and a fantastic software platform (OSX is the best).
Just make sure when streaming at 24/192 you have a decent ethernet connection, not wifi. I also suspect this will kill off MQA, not a moment too soon.
@ssfas, Thank you for your above post on using Qobuz. How does 24/192 bit steaming compare to Tidal's MQA steaming option?
Are you talking mayor sound quality differences or slightly improved? Any additional comments on using 24/192 steaming would be appreciated. How many 24/192 bit albums does Qobuz have in their catalog? Thanks again.......
I am looking forward for Qobuz to be available in the USA.
I’ve never used Tidal as I mostly listen to classical, nor MQA as Ive never used Tidal and MQA it is a fraud anyway. I’ve been using Qobuz since before Tidal existed. Qobuz has been going over 10 years.
Just searched Prince using iOS app. 313 albums. Then searched Purple Rain. They have original LP version in 24/96, the deluxe remaster in 16/44 and 24/96. This is typical, if something was issued on CD they will have the 16/44 CD version, LP masters usually in 24/96 and remasters in whatever formats they were remastered and issued in. So you can choose and compare if you want, there is no upsampling.
There aren’t that many 24/192 albums as it’s not that popular a format. The most common for classical and jazz is 24/96 and pop/rock 24/44.1 or 24/48.
There are millions of HD tracks. The great majority of new issues are available in HD. In iOS swipe the album cover and there is a second page with the format data.
Qobuz (pronounced CO-buz), a Paris-based online music streaming and download service for music lovers, has been named the Official High-Resolution Streaming Service for the upcoming 15th Annual Rocky Mountain International Audio Fest (RMAF).
Does anyone attending the RMAF have any comments regarding Qobuz? How good is their sound quality (24-bit albums)? How extensive is the catalog? When will it be officially released in the USA (Launch date)? What are its streaming costs? Will Qobuz offer a free trial period? How does Qobuz compare to Tidal in terms of sound quality and catalog size? Do I need both streaming services or is one enough?
Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks..