Newbie needs to make a decision, Rogue? Manley?


After 2 years with a HT system, I realized that my music was lacking and that I needed to explore the 2 CH world. After reading numerous reviews, seeking the advise of several 2CH friends and talking to several dealers, I'm ready to take my first step and purchase a tube amp and then a pre-amp. First, my current system consists of an Anthem AVM 30 processor, a Rotel 1075 amp, a Rega Apollo CD player, Paradigm Studio 60 V.3's for my fronts, and a SVS 20-39 subwoofer. The interconnects and speaker wires are a snakes pit of mid-line Monsters which I know I will grade next (Signal Cable maybe). My living room serves as my HT/listening room. It's 26x12x8 with the setup against the long wall and my seating position against the opposite wall. The room is well furnished with a soft leather sofa, no coffee table and more than sufficient carpeting. I know my seating position is far from perfect but I have no options in my layout.

My first audition was with a Rogue Stereo 90 amp and then a Rogue Cronos integrated amp with Thiel 1.6 speakers. Needless to say that as a newbie I couldn’t really tell the difference between the two very well but I was impressed overall. Another dealer then offered to let me audition a used set of Rogue M-120’s mono-blocks at home for a month. It was at this point I truly heard a distinctive difference between the Rogue and the Rotel (especially with my own speakers which I feel I know well). To complicate matters the dealer whom I purchased the Rega from provided me with a set of Manley Mahi’s as well as various Cardas speaker wires, interconnects and PC’s. In the brief time I has this set-up I began to believe that sex with my wife was no longer necessary. I listen mostly to jazz and Cassandra Wilson’s husky contralto with the Mahi’s in triode mode with minimum feedback sounded like she was standing next to me. Unfortunately I did say a brief audition as one of the Mahi’s died after 5 hours of playing!! The dealer confirmed that the amp was defective. Unfortunately it will take him a few weeks to obtain another set.

With all that said, I’m ready to make a purchase before my money goes elsewhere. My budget can stretch to $3,000 for a tube amp or solid integrated tube amp. The Stereo 90 would be able to deal with less efficient speakers when I decide to upgrade (Thiels, Salks, etc.) however, I’m still intrigued by the sound of the Mahi’s. However with only 40 watts at ultra-liner mode I’m afraid the Mahi’s may not be a good match down the road with less efficient speakers. Whatever I end up with would also need to power my fronts when I use my HT set-up. I don’t think this would be much of a problem as I peak out at about 85db when I look at movies. Are there any other amps with an adjustable feedback in my budget? Sorry about the long post. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
mightyburner

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I'm no expert when it comes to tube amplifiers but I am running an inexpensive ARC VT-60 with a Modwright linestage (highly recommended) and Paradigm Signature S4 speakers. I was ready to sell the S4's when I tried the ARC amp. My solid state system consists of Mark Levinson No 23.5 and No 27 in a bi-amp configuration.

In a word ... it was incredible. I'm using mostly Signal cable silver resolution IC's and Frank's Shotgun copper speaker cable. I was running a Rotel way back when and I upgraded to Nakamichi PA-7's and finally older Mark Levinson amplifiers. Each time it got better and better ... but the ARC amp was a huge jump. I'm now looking at amps in a similar price range to what you are seeking. I'd like to hear the Audio Research VT-100 MkIII - It can only get better. I am also looking at the McIntosh 275's (possibly a pair) ... I figure that should be enough power to handle a lesser efficient speaker but honestly I hesitate to make a change right now. I like it so much - I dont want to screw it up.

I'm also interested in VTL (mono blocks) but I have yet to hear a set.

Good luck ... I think we are on the right path.