hey alex... i guess i'm not surprised. the efficiency rating on the new logans is 92db. the woofers are active. but more power still helped. or maybe it was just the push pull circuit. i think even 100w of SET probably still would've felt soft in the bass.
the VTLs don't hold a candle the cary's imaging, layering, holographic presentation, but i just couldn't handle the bass, it was like a giant balloon. even tho the logans are active, i think they take on the amps character, from top to bottom.
i also tried the conrad johnson 140 on these logans and it sounded awful. anemic, dry, lifeless, totally controlled and totally restricted. the VTL is much warmer and full bodied, yet punchy. bold solid sound is about right.
you still have MB185s w/ some Theils?