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New Transport Approach

With never-ending advances in technology and tumbling prices, I wonder if any high-end audio CD player manufacturer is considering an approach such as this - populate the player with 700 megabytes of RAM and pre-read the whole CD into RAM. We know this is completely reliable (or else our beloved MS Office wouldn't work). Then the whole transport system could be shut down, eliminating any concerns about mechanical or electrical noise, and the "CD" could be played back straight from RAM through the DAC. It would seem like this would reduce or eliminate jitter completely. There would be an "initialization" time penalty, but I would think for the high-end market, that wouldn't be a huge deal. Any thoughts? -Kirk
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kthomas OP
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You can buy 256Mb RAM SIMMs for $140 or so apiece - since you'd need three, the maximum cost would be $420, but I'm sure the wholesale bulk cost would be decidedly less. At this point, it would be a definite cost addition to the machine, non-trivial to the point that it would only be appropriate for a high-end player.

However, I would think that it would eliminate a lot of cost associated with a high-quality transport section. I don't know much about what goes into making a high-end transport high-end, but I'm sure there's significant parts cost associated with it. Since you'd be separating the reading of the disc from the playback of the music, you wouldn't need all physical separation, so maybe at the end of the day it wouldn't be that much of an uptick in parts cost. Maybe it would ultimately cost less

I think most high-end players use one form of buffering or another towards the same goals, but the advantage I see here is buffering the whole disc, since that is what allows you to shut down the transport mechanically during playback, as well as removing all real-time aspects of data retrieval off the CD. As Gunbei suggests, there would be no moving parts during playback which removes a whole raft of noise issues. I think Pls1's calculation of about 2 minutes to load a CD is about right which, while not ideal, certainly isn't out of the question considering the lengths most audiophiles are willing to go to better the sound of their system. -Kirk

kthomas OP
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I only envisioned this as a high-end application - hence, no need for portable players, etc., and an acceptance of the initial delay for the improved performance, since audiophiles are the type that are willing to go to these lengths. I'm not sure about the power requirements prohibiting portable players anyway, though - we already have portable MP3 players which are the same thing with compression, though the goal is ease of use and amount of music as opposed to better audio performance.

I'm definitely NOT a designer of digital recording and playback systems, but I've integrated lots of related but unconnected systems in my professional life. It would seem here that you already have a functional (and cheap!) design for reading a CD into RAM, and as others have noted, it's already incorporated into many high-end players to cache data in RAM and re-clock it out to the DAC. I don't want to over-trivialize it, but it seems like a little "glue" to put the two together would suffice.

I agree with everyone that in the "I want it NOW" environment we currently live, the loading delay would be unacceptable for a mass consumer version of this, even if it was cost-effective. -Kirk

kthomas OP
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There is a company named Lansonic who is doing just what you describe - a disk-based audio component. It's got an ethernet interface on the back-end, audio-component interface (digital and analog) to feed a stereo system. It looks just like a server on the network, controllable by any other computer on the network. I haven't heard it, but would think reading the CD off the HD would eliminate the jitter issues, etc.

My big concern with purchasing one of these is the controlling software - usually hardware companies who need software write software that isn't up to par. It's not their specialty and it shows. If they ever prove to have the kinks worked out, it looks like a really flexible component. -Kirk

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