Bob, I'm surprised to hear about your health issue but am very glad to hear you made a full recovery. Keep on rocking ;-)
NEW Cerious Technologies Upgrade - Graphene Matrix Cables
CT Graphene Matrix Cables:
I have been using the CT GE cables for almost two years.
I recently traded up for a full loom of CT Graphene Matrix cables, including speaker, interconnect and PCs, and I wanted to share my experience. I started by replacing only the ICs to try and hear the differences.
The new Matrix interconnects sounded better than the GE immediately after install. I found the original Graphene Extreme ICs to be good but not on the same level as the outstanding GE speaker cables. As break-in started to clear things up, I can hear more clarity and detail not heard before. The ICs are incredible on their own and at the 30 hour mark, I can hear a clear superiority over the GE ICs. I recently started using the Teo Game Changer ICs and preferred them over GE but the Teo has now fallen to the new Graphene Matrix ICs. My Teo’s were and are great, and it is stunning to experience Cerious Technologies commitment to making great technology better.
On the third day of listening to the GM ICs. I couldn’t wait anymore, Having too much fun. I then installed the speaker cables and power cords once I had a pretty good feel for the sound of the GM ICs.
With the full loom of GM cables running in they are going through some strange changes and definitely need time to settle down before realizing what they can really do and very important Bob says to not move them. Since I have a home office I can let them run in all day. I’m at around 120 hours now and they are still improving. Here’s what I’m hearing:
Extended highs and tighter lows.
More detail and better low level listening
Drums are tighter, more clearly defined. So real is the snap of the snare drum. The bass has more depth, seemingly goes deeper, lower. This aspect stands out the most.
I am not in the industry, I’m not an engineer, I don’t work for Cerious Technologies, but I am a fan of the cables and am enjoying what my system is capable of.
I’m closer to my own pinnacle of sound reproduction than ever before.
Lance
I have been using the CT GE cables for almost two years.
I recently traded up for a full loom of CT Graphene Matrix cables, including speaker, interconnect and PCs, and I wanted to share my experience. I started by replacing only the ICs to try and hear the differences.
The new Matrix interconnects sounded better than the GE immediately after install. I found the original Graphene Extreme ICs to be good but not on the same level as the outstanding GE speaker cables. As break-in started to clear things up, I can hear more clarity and detail not heard before. The ICs are incredible on their own and at the 30 hour mark, I can hear a clear superiority over the GE ICs. I recently started using the Teo Game Changer ICs and preferred them over GE but the Teo has now fallen to the new Graphene Matrix ICs. My Teo’s were and are great, and it is stunning to experience Cerious Technologies commitment to making great technology better.
On the third day of listening to the GM ICs. I couldn’t wait anymore, Having too much fun. I then installed the speaker cables and power cords once I had a pretty good feel for the sound of the GM ICs.
With the full loom of GM cables running in they are going through some strange changes and definitely need time to settle down before realizing what they can really do and very important Bob says to not move them. Since I have a home office I can let them run in all day. I’m at around 120 hours now and they are still improving. Here’s what I’m hearing:
Extended highs and tighter lows.
More detail and better low level listening
Drums are tighter, more clearly defined. So real is the snap of the snare drum. The bass has more depth, seemingly goes deeper, lower. This aspect stands out the most.
I am not in the industry, I’m not an engineer, I don’t work for Cerious Technologies, but I am a fan of the cables and am enjoying what my system is capable of.
I’m closer to my own pinnacle of sound reproduction than ever before.
Lance
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@cycles2 I had a full loom of the CTG cables, I have ordered one Matrix Interconnect, however, I have not received it yet and I have not heard the new Matrix products yet. With that said, if you are still using the same components as with your CTG Loom, I would think the results with the Matrix line might follow suit. |
@t_ramey thanks for the feedback on the Matrix power cord. So you are using your Matrix power cord to power your Integrated tube amp? Did you have your Furutech DPS-4 on your Integrated tube amp also and the Matrix power cord is an improvement, just double checking? USPS will be delivering my Matrix RCA Interconnects today ;-) it's been a long week and a half wait, Bob must be busy filling orders! When they arrive I'll be putting them on my Audiodharama cable cooker for three days and then I'll report back. |
@t_ramey I'm not experimenting with my main system which has a full loom of U or UR HFC except for a few other Furutech power cords. In my secondary system, I have a Reval 1.5/M interconnect from my CJ Classic SE preamp to my CJ Classic Sixty SE amp, that's where I'm going to use the Matrix interconnect. Ozzy reported very good results replacing hir XLR Reveal interconnect with the Matrix. |
After 130 hours of burn-in on my Audiodharma Cable Cooker, I inserted the 1.5/M RCA Matrix Interconnects into my secondary system this morning between my CJ Classic SE preamp and my CJ Classic Sixty SE amp. The Matrix replaced the Reval 1.5/M interconnects. The build, looks and feel of the Matrix Interconnects is excellent as well as the custom box and awesome packaging that Bob always delivers. I believe that my Matrix Interconnects need some additional time to breath and age but if you are looking for a high quality interconnect that looks as good as it sounds, look no farther! I'd put this interconnect up against any other I've ever heard. Believe me, it can hold it's own and then some! Great bass, very nice macro and micro details, handles piano, organ, violins etc very well. That's all I dare say at this time. Now I wonder what I would hear if I replaced my HF U interconnect between my Dac and Preamp? Darm Merry go round never stops, it just pauses for a while! |
My pair of Matrix interconnects continue to improve (even after coming off the cable cooker for 136 hours) I really like them as stated above. I'd like to hear more about the Matrix power cords, especially from those of you that have them and can compare them to the various High Feditity power cords and the Furutech SO22N (14 gauge) and DPS-4 (11 gauge) power cords. |
@littlecx, sounds like your system has been running 24/7 with a signal going through the Reveal interconnects correct? Don't forget when you replace the Reveal with the GM there is going to be a lingering effect of the magnetic conduction for a couple of days, no big deal, I just wanted to mention that because a lot of people don't necessarily realize it. Go for it! |
@littlecx, NO! Change out the interconnects as soon as you want, don't shut down your system other than to change your interconnects. Just be aware that the sound, for a day or two might be influenced by magnetic conduction. Really won't matter much because you have to burn in the new interconnects anyway and the sound will change a bit. |
Based upon my experience with the CTG speaker cables and I assume the Matrix is similar, (if I'm incorrect someone please correct me) moving the speaker cables after they are broken in will cause them to sound different but they should settle in when relocated a lot faster. Not the same as the HFC products which has to go through the process of regaining magnetic conduction. |
I agree there is no perfect solution which is why lots of people mix and match to tune the sound to their hearing pleasure (as we both know). jmcgrogan2, I wish I could answer your original question, however, I have not heard the manufacturers you listed although I do have one High Fidelity CT-1UR interconnect, digital cable and power cord in one system, along with other HF CT-1U. I have a very hard time removing one HF cable, putting a non-HFC into the system and then try to figure out what I'm hearing due to all the magnetic conduction etc. All I seem to do is frustrate myself! LOL... |
I received the Black Mamba V2 on 1/18 and most likely will receive the Tunami GPX-R V2 tomorrow. I put the Black Mamba V2 on my cable cooker for five days and currently have it in my second system on my CJ Classic SE preamp. At this time I would say that it's every bit as good as the Furutech 22N, possibly a bit more refined. My DPS-4 powers my main listening room amp, therefore I have not attempted a comparison because its a pain to get to, but maybe later when I have more time. I do not own a Mano tech 308 or Matrix power cord. When the Tunami GPX-R V2 arrives it will go on my cable cooker for four days. |
I received the Tunami GPX-R V2 today and my Matrix digital cable. I have both of them on my cable cooker. I did notice that the Tunami is quite a bit heavier and less flexible than the Black Mamba but neither power cord should create a problem for anyone as far as bendability goes. I did remove the Furutech DPS-4 power cord from my Plinius SA Reference amp in my main listening room and compared the DPS-4 to the Furutech SO22N (14 gauge) power cord on my CJ Classic SE preamp. Now I don't want to upset anyone and your results might differ from mine but I like the SO22N or the Black Mamba V2 much better on the preamp than the DPS-4. There was a lot of testing done with the Furutech SO22N (14 gauge), SO32N (12 gauge) and FP S55N (10 gauge) and the majority people (elsewhere), (myself included in my home) seemed to prefer the sound of the SO22N. I really like the DPS-4 on my Plinius amp and/or a power conditioner of any type. I was not able to try the DPS-4 on my Transport or Dac at this time, the problem is the Transports and Dac's have HFC U or UR power cords powering them with the issue of lingering magnetism. Takes time that I don't have right now. |
I do not own the Matrix speaker cables however I have always had better sound with all speaker cables and power cables by elevating them off the floor. If you want to save some dollars you could use some 2X4 blocks etc. There has been a lot posted in Audiogon forums regarding other inexpensive creative ways to get cables off the floor. Just my opinion of course :-) On a very positive note I received my Matrix Digital Cable and I'm very pleased with it. |
@tuffy72561 the digital cable is not directional and there are no arrows marking a direction. Now that you are using it, mark the direction that it is flowing, (I use a piece of blue painter tape because it leaves no markings if it's taken off). Now your digital cable is developing a direction and in the future should always be used in the present direction. BTW; kclone moved our Oyaide discussion to its own thread: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/oyaide-cables |
I've tested the Voodoo 15/20 amp and 20/15 amp adapters that were cryogenically treated. After break-in, I could not distinguish the difference between the identical power cord vs the power cord with the adapter. Although a different piece of handware for the different function I would think that it would not color the sound bassed on the experience I described above. |
I burned in a Matrix power cord on my cable cooker for a friend and I currently have it on my Plinius Reference SA amp. I've had many high-end power cords on that amp and they have all sounded good however the Matrix definitely is at the top of the list. I noticed better overall tone, a tightening of the bass and wider more holographic soundstage. Darn you Bob Grost, now I have to add a Matrix power cord to the list of Matrix items I want to purchase. Ozzy, I can't wait to read what the 3/M Matrix power cords do for your momo-blocks! |