New blood needs your Amp/system advice, please.


Greetings, Fellow Enthusiasts. This is my debut post on any sort of hi-fi forum. Excited to begin tapping into some of your knowledge/expertise.

I am slowly trying to piece together a clean, simple and very musical two channel experience. Cut my 'Seperates' teeth on a Rotel system about nine years ago... good entry level gear. My pre-amp recently died and I started a pupae phase of more critical listening and put together a few new pieces.

current system:

power plant: PS Audio PS-600

pre-amp: Audio Research LS3

cd: Naim CD5i

amp: Rotel RB 981 {120 wpc}

speakers: Paradigm Studio 100's V3.

speaker cables: Transparent "The Wave"

interconnects: Interlink "The Link" 200

The system sounds okay with vocals, guitar and horns etc. but is fairly flat and muddy in much of the mid-lower ends. It's seems obvious that these speakers are severely underpowered. Is this likely what I am hearing? What steps should I take to attain more balance in this system? How much power would be enough?

What Amps would you recommend?

Got a great deal on most of this gear and am still auditioning. Am not really married to any of it and am willing to consider replacing to gain a more musical enjoyment.

Thanks in advance for your time on this.

Cheers! Timothy
timtopper

Showing 3 responses by gmood1

IME the more power the better for this speaker.If you want to keep the speakers I would suggest 350wpc or better.You need a high current amplifier. Something like the Empirical Audio 585 Adcom..or just the basic one to start.One of the big Aragon amplifiers should work well also. The speakers need to be out from the rear wall maybe 3 to 5 ft if possible. If not the amplifier and speaker positioning..it's time to trade in the speakers. Room modes aside the speakers can be wooly all by themselves regardless of any help from a room. Just trying to save you the time of playing with sound panels. Find yourself a sealed speaker or one that has a smooth rolloff below 50 Hz without the 50 hz hump. You'll know that you've found it,when you hear it..the muddiness will be gone.

Good luck
For a new blood I must commend you on your great hearing!
You have accurately described what this speaker does on a frequency plot chart.There's a 2.5 Ohm load around 104 Hz. Also there's a huge boost in the upper bass output. The upper/mid treble also has a boost. The woofers and tweeters/midrange appear to be wired out of phase. No amount of room treaments or cabling will change it. You can help out the bass with a higher current amplifier...if you want to keep the speakers.Here you can read it for yourself Measurements .We audiophiles sometimes live in denial and find any means to bandaid a problem. My theory ..get rid of what's causing the problem and move on.
I need you to come over and ear tweak my system when you have time. ;-)

Cheers
I certainly don't want anyone to feel I'm picking on their speakers.There are plenty of speakers that cost more and have worse horrific measurments than the Paradigm 100v3.One of my favorite planars(Magnepans) measures like crapola. It's panels are inverted out of phase also.Soliloquys drivers are not in phase either. As well as some Sonus Fabers,Dynaudio and Vienna Acoustic models. Speaking of which the Vienna Acoustic Mahler has a horrific suckout between 800Hz and 2.4Khz..I'm talking -12dB. This is where a good portion of the human voice lies as well as many unamplified instruments.The Hz's and the dB's of Real Music.The Proac 3.8 and Magnepan 3.6R have 50Hz humps you could sit on..this may make them difficult to set up in certain rooms.It will give you a perception of more bass that really isn't in the actual recording...If you like it... roll with it.

The point is the measurements may help you in figuring out what sound you can live with in your room. And it may give you a head start on what you need to do to help the speakers along.You must decide what parts of the music are most important to you. Some just like a lot of volume..regardless if it makes all the instruments sound ridiculous or unnatural. Listening to different implementations of speakers/equipment in your room is the only way to know for sure what's right for you.

Good Luck