Need help with Spica TC-50 / Kinergetics setup


I have an older speaker set (circa 1988) and looking for someone who can help me make my system a little more bigger sounding.

I'm hoping someone knows about (i.e. "remembers") the Spica TC-50s and Kinergetics SW-200 subs and can help me out with getting more out of them. This is one of the few online forums where I found reference to the speakers anywhere! The Spica / Kinergetics were always rated very high for vocals, but maybe aren't the best for home theatre:

Main: Spica TC-50's
Sub: Kinergetics SW-200
Surround: Jamo 80(?)
Center: None.
Amp: Harmon Kardon AV300

I'm not a super audiophile (in fact I know very little!), but would like a good sounding theatre system with a lot more punch. It seems like the bass is easily overwhelmed and the kinergetics clip very easily with my current set up.

Is there anyone out there that remembers the Spica / Kinergetics and can give me advice to make my system more exciting?!

Am I expecting too much from my speakers?
Would a center speaker help? What would be a good match?
Do I need a better amp?

Any advice would be appreciated!

Thanks!

John
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Thanks for the input. Seems the consensus is that, although a good speaker set for music, the Spica / Kinergetics just aren't for home theater. And that maybe my Kinergetics have a power supply problem on top of everything else.

Can anyone suggest a good tech in the SF Area? (maybe I should repost a thread in "tech talk")
The Kinergetics do have their own separate amp. I go from the subwoofer pre-amp out on the HK receiver to the input on the Kinergetics amp. I don't know that much about the electronics and what causes clipping (besides something is being overloaded), but I'd guess that the Kinergetics amp is what is clipping. Like you said, I think they were made for accurate sound reproduction but not for simulating a spaceship landing in your living room.

Do you think I'd be better trying to sell my Spicas / Kinergetics and getting speakers more designed for home theatre? Is there a market for selling the Spicas and Kinergetics anymore?!

I'll post another thread to see what people could recommend as a different speaker set more designed for home theatre and how much a decent system would be.

I'm know I'm quite the newbie, so I appreciate your help!

John
Thanks for your input.

I keep reading about how the TC-50s are "legendary" at imaging so I wonder if I trade them in if I'll be disappointed with the sound stage? Maybe a different sub will give me a little more punch. The Kinergetics were specifically designed to use with the Spicas so you'd think they would give a little more.

I think you're right that I am leaning more towards dynamics and bass for this particular system since it's mostly used for watching movies. I'll have to do some homework on what might be a more appropriate system without breaking the bank. It's all a bit overwhelming!

Thanks again for your input.

John
I may be a little tight in my current room configuration. The speakers are only about 18" from the back wall and one is that far from a side wall.

I remember in my old apartment where they were more in the open and being blown away with the sound stage. When I closed my eyes, it sounded like the singer was up on stage in front of me. Wild! I don't get that much in my current configuration (although we are hoping to expand the room in the next few months and I wonder if the sound will change).

What $500 speakers do you suggest I look at?

I wish I could just add a little more "umph!" to the Spicas for movie watching. I still question if the kinergetics are just not performing optimally either due to restricted power or placement or something...
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Seems like the consensus is that with the good imaging Spica's, that a center channel would only make things worse.

I posted in my other thread that it seems like just the right sub speakers are having the problem and was wondering if room configuration can actually make the speakers have the problem I'm having. Check out the thread here for what I've observed:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl? htech&1069370656&openusid&zzRobotman&4&&

(If the link doesn't work, it's in the tech talk under "what causes clipping?")

The room is a bit hard to describe because there is about a 2' room divider. The left speaker sits in the "corner" of the room divider and the back wall. The front of the left speakers are basically up to the end of the divider.

The room the set up is in is about 15' deep and 20' wide (but the divider is at 15'). The entire room is next to a larger room.

Not sure if that makes sense. No one has told me yet if room size can actually cause speakers to jackhammer like my right subs are or if I have an actual speaker problem... check out my other thread for a description.

Thanks for your help!
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