Gerdessc
You are correct it should be fun and people should be able to express ideas and points without people blowing their tops.
You got guys saying they would never come into our shop, based on what they read, here, come on, if you think the experience of talking with someone on a forum is like meeting someone in person or talking with them on the phone it isn't. The ultimate proof is hearing the products and systems setup and seeing for yourself if you agree or disagree that the sound is good and to your taste.
We even said the Elac's have a tendency to be a bit hot and require careful matching. The problem is how overblown people's love and support of their products is.
You should be able to openly discuss, drivers, technology, engineers, etcs, without feeling threatened. Whether brand X or Y employs technology which would be considered by some to be "revolutionary" while others do not feel that that technology is classified as such should engender an open discourse
The derisive term that some posters have been raising towards us is shilling or trolling, for gain, the reality is that almost 0 people have purchased anything from us, by our replies on these forums, read what Zzsantabarbara wrote about what they learned from us
The point we keep on making is that audio products are just tools if you can find a better one who cares out with the old and in with the new.
We are passionate about our products but quite frankly don't care so much about the brand we are always discovering and trying out new brands and equipment.
In the case of Elac the Adantes are brand new and are controversial because they do have a pronounced flavor, if you care for a dynamic, visceral speaker with a big sound stage and a bit forward treble, you will love them.
If you prefer a softer treble, a richer midrange and less pronounced deep bass these are not the speakers for you.
If you notice in our posts we often mention different products as we sell many brands of loudspeakers, including, Dali, Legacy, Elac, Paradigm, KEF Rethem, Gradient, Cabasse we don't feel that any one brand of these speakers is more correct then the others, while other dealers, posters feel that only brand x is the path to musical nirvana.
This post was started to demonstrate that you can put together a fantastic package that is affordable and makes the Elac's come alive with a very complimentary package and not to go off track with a discussion of other loudspeakers design attributes.
The moderators are doing a terrible job, posts that are not related to the subject should be removed. Period, no member should be attacked because you don't like what they write.
If you don't like what they write don't get indignant just don't read the post. There are many great people here with different points of view and likes and dislikes.
The market is vast and you may be surprised by what you can learn from stores like ours we have over 60 brands on display, because we try to find products to fit the client, not fit the client to the product.
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ
